Post by srtdog64 in Is there a tag exclusion function? If not, please make it.

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I understand that you're really annoying, but to be honest, I think it's better to make a notice about the questions that come up often.

I think my answer may sound a bit 'sarcastic'. I'm willing to apologize for this, but I'm already buying AI works by mistake. I'm so tired.

I understand you're annoying to be honest, but you also need to know that I don't know everything about you. It's the first question for me, no matter how many times you've asked.

And if there were so many questions, I think I would have announced 'frequently asked questions'.

If the system is wrong, it becomes difficult for the individual. Personally, I don't improve what can be improved in this system, so I think you have a hard part.
In particular, I think that questions that are frequently asked can be announced simply.

I know that you have committed as a mediator on this site.

To be honest, I don't want to fight you over such trivial matters. You and I know each other only on the Internet, but nevertheless, since we are people who use this site and are a kind of community, I think I should also be polite.

I also apologize once again for posting a reply somewhat aggressively because of your annoyance, but basically I don't know why my words made you so angry.

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hechelion206 days ago (1 edit)

Are you using a translator?

That's probably the problem, because I don't see any of the "No Time To play" responses showing anger or aggression.

A clarification: "No Time To play" is a community moderator, he has no power to modify Itch, so he's not saying that he doesn't want to add an exclusion tag. He's just explaining a fact.

On ITch it's only possible to exclude one TAG

https://itch.io/post/304369

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srtdog64206 days ago (2 edits) (+1)

were lots and lots and lots of topics discussing

I'm not using a translator. but, I felt like this part looked angry.
In my culture, when use this type of Bold font as an emphasis on 'anger'.

I think it's a difference according to culture.

Anyway, thank you for your response.

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redonihunter206 days ago

Oh, you can hear him rolling his eyes. It is just the ususal frustration of any moderator in any community about people asking a question that has been answered very often, so that anyone using the search function of the board should have stumpled upon it.

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srtdog64206 days ago

To be honest, even if I search, there's no word that I'm going to implement this 'exclude' function. If there's a clear answer that I can't implement it, I'll understand.

I'm an Asian culture in general, so it's generally considered "angry" for community operators to basically complain. However, since this is a Western culture, I apologize for this.

And to be honest, I think you know how uncomfortable the search function on this site is. And the function will be implemented anywhere in the forum I've seen. There's no clear answer that it won't be implemented.

Rather, if there is a certain exclusion function by notice, I may not know, but unless there is,

I can only say that the system itself is wrong to be honest.

I think we should give a clear answer.

I've searched and there's no clear answer to this question, I just don't know what to say to me if I just say I've got a lot of questions.
My major is superconductor. So someone else asks me about superconductors, do you really think the answer is the right one to answer that I've been asked a lot about superconductors?

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redonihunter206 days ago

Even allowing for translation issues, I have difficuties to understand what you talk about. Please use a translator page and backtranslate what you wrote into your own language and check if that sounds incomprehensible to you too.

Also you answered to my reply to another thing, instead of my reply to you, where I did talk about things you refer to in a way that makes me think you did not read that other reply.

The moderator does not work for Itch. He is not the operator of this message board. This message board, the itch community, is a user message board. Not a tech support message board. It is users talking to each other. So do not expect official statemens of any kind. The founder of Itch sometimes posts in this board as well. But no "official" statement about reasons or plans in regard to any exclusion features so far. And there is no habit of talking about internal information, plans and roadmaps, so this is not anything unusual.

Rather, if there is a certain exclusion function by notice, I may not know, but unless there is,

I can only say that the system itself is wrong to be honest.

Please. Translate this back and forth. What do you mean? I do not understand.

You would like that feature. I got that. But what is wrong about the situation? I asked the people discussing in the threads about this topics several times about other game hosting sites with exclusion features. I could not find any. And no one gave me an example. There is one exception, and that is "Steam". And their tag exclusion is hidden away. I used the site for many, many years without ever noticing that feature's existence.

It just is not a common feature. So what is "wrong" about not having this feature?

My major is superconductor. So someone else asks me about superconductors, do you really think the answer is the right one to answer that I've been asked a lot about superconductors?

But we would not ask you! We would discuss about the topic at a site where you would not answer such questions at all, even if you were to read and sometimes post there.

If this were are more technical message board, there would be a rule about people having to use the search function of the board, before opening a new thread. And any threads opened that demonstrate that this was not done would be closed. But as I said above, this is not a technical support message board. It is users talking to users. No one qualified will answer here (most of the time). All we can tell you, as fellow users, is, that there is no official answer about reasons why this feature does not exist. And we can talk about how to cope with the lack of that feature.

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srtdog64206 days ago

Oh, I'm sorry. I'll use a translator to communicate from now on. Until now, I've been writing to improve my English skills, so I didn't know if those were incorrect expressions.

What I'm curious about is this. To be honest, when I clicked on the Support board on this forum, it led me to this channel, so I thought the mediator was one of the staff members. This is because I also used to work as QA for a game company. And in my culture, things actually operate in the way I described (I am Korean). I'm talking about a board where you can see both official responses from the staff and official responses from users

That's why I naturally thought Questions&Support would be the typical official request channel. I think it's a cultural difference, and this is the point I want to make

And as you mentioned, I'm a frequent Steam user, and because it's naturally available on Steam, I asked the question. To be honest, I'm very perplexed by the fact that there's no direct channel on this site. Since direct support and requests to game companies are possible on Steam, I thought it would be similar to Steam's community support, but I'm confused that it's not the case.

My point is that all of these things are set up in a flawed system. If suggestions for site features aren't being checked by the staff, why bother making them public?

I use this site to purchase assets, but recently there's been a flood of AI works, causing me to spend money I don't need to spend, so I made a request. I've now realized that this is just a public board, and my questions and suggestions are not checked by the site staff.

Anyway, I understand your answer. I'll accept it as a cultural difference. And I initially searched within the board.

I want you to understand that I asked the question because there wasn't a clear answer in the first place. I searched before asking my question and confirmed that there was no clear answer about adding features, so I asked.

You might think it's 'obvious', but there's really nothing 'obvious' in this world. Frankly, you know the rules in detail because you're a long-time user of this site, but for me, it's difficult to know community rules that aren't even in the announcements.

Anyway, thank you for your long answer. I also feel that my English skills are still lacking for long compositions. It's because I'm not from an English-speaking culture. I think it will be clear this time because I used a translator.

Thank you for your help.

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redonihunter205 days ago (2 edits)

Oh, I do that too (the writing to improve my English). I assume your native language has phrases that ommit the pronouns a lot, so things like "I" and "you" are hard. The back translating on a web page is a simple trick to use. If your text does not translate back well, the translator did not understand the meaning.

The sub-forum is misleadingly named: "Support", but the first sentence in the header should clarify it. "Get help from the itch.io community". For real issues they want you to send a mail to actual support. So here in the message boards it is mostly discussion among users, which might or might not include solutions.

And do not worry, it is less cultural difference and more of: Itch being Itch. Some things are just different, as it is an indie site for indie games. And this includes the message board. Ever heard of a message board that has no spoiler functionality in comments? A message board about games. A topic, where spoilers are a concept.

All publishers on this site are also users. At least there is no difference between the accounts. You are a publisher if you have uploaded a project. There are also no direct or private messages on Itch. But they still have a follower system that reminds people of actual social media. And when you write a review for a game, it is not public as it would be public on Steam. It is not attached to the game. The publisher sees it, and maybe followers of the review writer. And it appears in the global feed of reviews for a short time. Very peculiar.

They have a button for feature requests. It is hidden if your browser window has too few width pixels. There is a button on the left side in your settings, called feedback. If you do not see the button, decrease zoom level of your browser. Requesting features in message board is therefore not the channel to Itch. It might get noticed and there might be discussion. So my theory about the the exclusion feature is, that while some people discuss it on the message board, actually not that many people did request it by the feedback button. When it came up in message board some 6 years ago, the site founder quickly made an "inofficial" feature for a single tag exlusion. But this was not expanded. Probably because it would be very hard to do multiple tag exclusion.

And in case you missed it:

https://itch.io/game-assets?exclude=tg.ai-generated

This will hide all assets that are tagged ai-generated. But you will still need to read the description, because selecting this particular tag is not enforced.

(The feature is inofficial, because it has no button on the website. You need to add it to the url. If you do that a lot, use a bookmark.)

Anyways, as I hinted in another reply here: this feature will be of little use to you. There are 60000 assets on Itch. Only 300 have that ai tag.

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