Post by redonihunter in I am once again, asking for negative filters.

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This is community, so you talk to other users here. You can try animating other people to also use the feedback button.

If the feature is in actual high demand, maybe they put it on the to-do list. Such a thread in community every other week is not high demand. It is strong demand of a few people. Most users never ever visit community. Just look at the view counter of threads. A thread like this will get maybe 100 non-unique views.

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Mixxium48 days ago (2 edits)

See you say that but not only is that what the topic is for (ideas and feedback for itch.io staff), but the only currently existing exclusion system was put in place this way 6 years ago on this very forum by this very method. https://itch.io/t/160014/can-i-use-exclusion-filters. If you don't actually use this website very often though I understand that, but I imagine I'm on the lower end of usage here.

Tldr: You're kinda trippin.

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redonihunter48 days ago

You still talk to other users here.

The tagline of this section is: "Share your ideas and feedback for things you'd like to see itch.io do."

And not: "Give us your feature requests here, staff will read here and discuss it with you."

You are campaigning for that feature. I get it. But asking for the feature with the ask-for-a-feature-button would not hurt your cause, now would it?

Also, convincing people that the feature would be good might help too, so they also use the feature request button.

My current opinion is, that this feature would not be as good as people envision it. And that a different feature would be better: hiding games you already know. And improving the recommendations section. Why are people complainging about tag exclusions? Imho because they use the browse filters, instead of recommendations and related games. And browse is populated with popular games, a user might not like very much. Like horror. The top games in any particular section you browse for are not changing very fast. Marking them as seen and not interested would also filter out unwanted games and might even improve the recommendations.

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Mixxium48 days ago

Look man, I've already done so, and what is a lot more important than sending a random feedback posts is getting the concept back in people's heads. It's been years since the last push and it would help itchio traffic by an incredible degree. (Also, I've seen this debated far too much, you cannot sell potatoes to someone who doesn't like potatoes by replacing his apples with potatoes, he's just going to get mad)

And as to the "wouldn't be as good as we think" part after installing a fork that allows you to do just that (albeit in a way that is a massive pain to change what you want excluded), it's fucking awesome. I haven't had a better time on this website, the problem is it took 3 hours to set up and understand how it works, and if it ever broke then it's just done.

Again tldr: Yes I know, and I have, you should do it too, and not try to downplay the idea like is done every time the topic is brought up, logical variables are important for searching and its been a decade. Let's push for this.

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Mixxium48 days ago (1 edit)

Also, most people search through by tag, it's the best way to find things that you want when searching online for anything. You can't just expect people to play what you serve them and like it.

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redonihunter47 days ago

it would help itchio traffic by an incredible degree

Now, if you can convince Itch of this, they would have a bigger incentive to implement it.

most people search through by tag

Is there any reference for this?

Of course this is plausible, as browsing for tags will give you games that have at least one aspect you are looking for. But this does not mean, that people would also want to browse negative tags. I know that Steam has this feature, but I never ever heard of that feature before the discussions on Itch. I even had to look for the feature, because it its not that obvious how to do it. If you click on a tag on Steam you do not get to a place where you can negativly select other tags.

A game I like is Backpack Hero. It has these tags

Role Playing, Card Game, Strategy, 2D, Cute, Deck Building, Dungeon Crawler, Pixel Art, Roguelike, Roguelite, Turn-based

Is there a scenario in which I would find this game better/faster/whatever with the use of a negative tag? There do be scenarios, where I might miss this game, because I used a negative filter. Maybe I dislike "cute" games and negativly selected "cute".

I wonder how many people even know how to use - on a regular, non tag based search engine. Many people do not even grasp that you can enter freestyle tags in the browse box, or that there are two search boxes on Itch. It took me months to realize that. But I was used to Steam, and ~~tag~~ searching is not a big thing there, at least not for me.

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