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does anything actually work against palladium and tungsten? none of the ultimates seem to work and i can't use items

Nothing actually works against them, but the turns still move forward like normal--if you block or use skills that say they "take a turn" in the description, eventually the battle ends.

well i knew tat the battle ends if you stall for time, but i was just wondering if there was anything that did anything (walkthrough was just being cheeky i guess)