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No Time To Play4 years ago

I understand very well what censorship means. It refers to the suppression of speech by the state. Itch is a private venue. You're on somebody's private property here. And the host can show you the door without having to give a reason.

I never claimed the deletions weren't recorded. Not all log entries include the username. And I qualified my earlier statement with "in my experience", without referring to any specific people. You on the other hand have found it appropriate to insult me, our admins and pretty much all other creators on the platform.

You're on thin ice here. Don't mistake kindness for weakness.

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Theotokos Derzhavnaya Bless Putin4 years ago(+1)

I know very well what censorship means, and it extends well beyond the state. There are some interesting lawsuits ongoing about whether or not FaceBook and Twitter as private companies providing public fora can censor people. You would do well to take note.

Another example, there used to be many restaurants with home rules, such as ‘no shirt, no tie, no service’, or ‘only whites’. Notice how in most countries this is no longer allowed. As soon as you make your private property a public forum, you relinquish the right to discriminate who gets to speak there within the law. Even assuming you can enforce, the terms of service as law, it is not up to moderators to apply restrictions to speech in keeping with the terms of service.

I have not insulted anyone, yet, though you really would love me to go there, wouldn’t you?

Don’t mistake my patience for bootlicking, I know which one of us is playing with fire.

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No Time To Play4 years ago

Funny that. We're neither Facebook nor Twitter. Restaurants where I live can and do select their customers. It's apparently fine under EU regulations, which if anything are stricter than in most places. And you're confused about the role of a moderator: keeping the conversation civil is exactly what I'm supposed to do. This, too, is part of free speech. Not that you have a right to free speech in what is, once again, a private venue.

Also, you don't seem very patient, or aware of who's playing with fire here.

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Theotokos Derzhavnaya Bless Putin4 years ago(+1)

There are many things you seem to be significantly less aware of. Try me.

Free speech absolutely applies in private venues. And you would be hard put, to find any country where you are allowed to remove someone from a restaurant because you don’t like the colour of their skin, for example.

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No Time To Play4 years ago

One is however allowed to remove anyone from anywhere for being a disturbance the way you are now, in any civilized country. Even from a state institution.

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Theotokos Derzhavnaya Bless Putin4 years ago(+1)

Absolutely not. Quite the contrary in fact. You should go out and try it from the opposite perspective sometime. You might enjoy it, and at least find it informative.

All this shilly-shallying is all quite cute, but it does not help me any further with the actual crux of the matter, only expose one or other of our semantic shortcomings.

I do not mistake your “kindness” for weakness, there is nothing to mistake. You have shown not one iota of goodwill or even the faintest interest in performing your job as a moderator as of yet, which is to uphold the terms of service – not to enforce whatever whim you may feel at any given moment. Such as the absurd notion that I am disturbing the peace.

What you are going to do now, is dig up the logs of all moderations of any kinds to my user content. And then we will walk one by one through each, to see whether they are justified under the terms of service. And if they are not, you will restore my posts. You will then pass on the message that there needs to be significantly more feedback provided when dismissing/addressing reports and when moderating content.

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Theotokos Derzhavnaya Bless Putin4 years ago(+1)

I appreciate that digging through the logs may be taking you some time, especially if no user identification is tabulated therein. Since I have more entertaining ways to waste my time than waiting around though, feel free to post the relevant logs here or send them to me. Or if you have a strong preference, you can also make an appointment to look them through with me live.

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