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O.k. so you are saying it will take a while to get to the higher tier ingots, but it's worth it. O.k. I get that I will keep trying, and about my charisma it's at 6, which I used the redistribute point option to change some things around, and put everything into charisma. Logged off, and when I got back in, it reset the points back to what it was before with the redistribution used. Have you seen that issue as well?