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Garry Francis4 years ago

I was really enjoying this game (really nice graphics and nice descriptions), but now I'm stumped.

I have the silver coins, snake skin, shells and small cauldron that I can fill with green acid or rainbow-coloured fluid. I can't work out how or where to use any of these items. I need a disc to insert in the mechanism near the volcano, a way to open the door at the base of the mountain and a key to enter the pyramid. I'm also sure that I need to do something with the well at the base of the mountain, the deep pit at the volcano and get the scorpion in the desert. There's also a horned ram, an owl and a noble stag that may have some relevance at some point.

I've been trying brute force with every verb I can think of with every item in every room, but all to no avail. Can you give me a hint, please?
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sunteam4 years ago

Fill the cauldron with the rainbow fluid. Take a look at the mountain door, the shape on it is a hint to what the well is for.

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Garry Francis4 years ago

I'm afraid that doesn't help me. The key nouns here appear to be cauldron, fluid, well and door. I've been trying to pour the fluid from the cauldron into the well in order to (hopefully) melt the ice. I've tried every combination of enter, pour, empty, fill, put, place, insert and use with all those nouns plus a number of other verbs that aren't understood. Am I on the right track? This is definitely a guess-the-verb issue.

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sunteam4 years ago

Yes you're right - I will add additional verbs and update in the future. There are several ways of doing it (but not enough), try FILL WELL WITH FLUID.

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Garry Francis4 years ago

Sorry. Didn't see your reply. I used EMPTY CAULDRON INTO WELL. I had tried multi-word input elsewhere and it didn't seem to work, so I was assuming it only understood two-word input all the time.

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sunteam4 years ago

It's a bit of a tightrope as I was making it compatible with DAAD for Spectrum Next...which does use two word (meaning some commands on the can work when they really shouldn't). I'm still learning what can and can't be done with it, this is my first try at using Adventuron.

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Garry Francis4 years ago

I've finished it now. On the Telegram group, I said that I loved it at the start and hated it about halfway through and loved it again by the end. The graphics are brilliant and the descriptions are really well written. You've done a great job for a first attempt at Adventuron.

I took extensive notes so that I can write up a solution later. I think I only noted one major bug (the one Christopher Merriner mentioned),a couple of questionable things in the end game and a few spelling errors. As I struggled with guess-the-verb issues, that part could really be improved. I'll get some suggestions to you in the next couple of days, maybe on the forum.

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sunteam4 years ago

Thanks for the feedback. The browser version is a lot more fussy than the Next version and I didn't fully account for that (all my playtesters were on the Next which is the intended destination). Aside from the verb issues, how did you feel about the length, structure and puzzles? This is really the first proper text adventure I've made and struggled to think up interesting puzzles for it!

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Garry Francis4 years ago

The whole thing was very psychedelic. It reminded me of a famous episode of The Simpsons, where Homer ate some really strong chilli that gave him hallucinations.

Length and structure were just right. You had a nice number of barriers to prevent progress and every time you got past one of those barriers, it was a real thrill to see the graphics for the newly discovered location.

The puzzles were somewhat old school. Wander around, find objects, then work out what to do with them. It was pretty much one object per puzzle with not much depth. The connection between the object and the puzzle wasn't always obvious or intuitive. There's nothing necessarily wrong with that, but when you have to resort to trial and error, it sort of takes the pleasure away. There were a few exceptions. For example, the strange mechanism was quite good, as there were multiple elements to the final solution of the puzzle and it revealed something quite unexpected.

I found the end game a bit confusing. I didn't really understand what the animals were telling me. That may have been intentional. I need to replay it to try giving different things to different animals. (I think I know which animal will react to which "treasure".) I was expecting to have to give something to each of the animals, but when I went back to try, most of them had disappeared after talking to them.

Apart from the brute force slog in the middle of the game, I really enjoyed it and hope you write some more. Technically, it was very well written. I would not have guessed that it's your first Adventuron game.

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sunteam4 years ago

Thank you. This is all good to know and will help when I plan future adventures.

With regards to the animals, they do hint at what they require (The stag hints at leadership and lineage, therefore the 'Pharaoh mask', the Owl speaks of silver discs 'silver coins' and the Scorpion speaks of coloured glass 'coloured gems'). These are the only 3 'treasures' in the game.

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Garry Francis4 years ago

That was exactly what I suspected. I had used the owl.

Incidentally, can you add UNDO. To do this, just add the following:

game_settings {
   rewind_enabled = true
   rollback_enabled = true
}
The first allows you to undo the previous move.

The second allows you to undo after a lose_game statement. In this case, Adventuron asks whether you want to rollback.

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simiane4 years ago

I'm a little confused by this - these comments suggest the animals talk to you, but I've tried TALK TO [ANIMAL] and generally get a response indicating that I've been largely ignored! I'd also tried giving the gems to the scorpion (Jewelled scorpion? Worth a try...) to no avail.
Might also be worth pointing out that the readme suggests typing 'HELP' will give some hints about verbs, but this doesn't work - at least on the Next version.

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Adventuron4 years ago(+1)

Hello Sunteam,

You should be able to use noun2_is "yournoun" in 8-bit (DAAD compatible) mode. Please let me know if it doesn't work.

You should be using adventuron.io/beta (at time of posting) as this has the latest mapping fixes.

Chris

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Garry Francis4 years ago

I cracked it. It took me hours. It turns out that it needs multi-word input.

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