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This story... It grabs you.

I did TJ's route, and I don't know if I can do another.

Of the VN's I've been reading/playing over the past week, this was the one that felt the most real. Some of the others really touched me as well, but this one.. Boy. Is it just me, or does it feel like betrayal to go through the story again, with another character?

I have a lot of love for this, even if it was emotionally difficult.

EDIT: I went through the Leo timeline.
Why does this story hit me so hard??

Is it the medium, or the story, or both? Holy shit.

I want to know what happened in the other timelines, but I can't take any more.

Drake424 years ago

I think Leo's route is the most sad! Poor guy just wanted his love back, and messed it up then never got a chance to make things right! Plus I might have found a couple plot holes in his route!

Spoiler!

The whole train escape doesn't actually make sense. Why can the train leave the town and cars can't? Why would they believe a druggy and try such a dangerous stunt as jumping onto a moving train, even slow moving!?

Also they seem able to snap their friends out of the hysteria by talking to them and touching them, but nobody tried to comfort or reason with Leo! At least not a serious try. Chase although understandably having mental and emotional stress, didn't even try to tell Leo he was possibly having hallucinations even though it shouldn't be that hard to guess what was happening to him! Yeah Leo was being unstable and dangerous, but surly his life long friends could have taken a minuet to try and help him!

Dewpoint4 years ago

Yeah, leaving Leo behind was gut wrenchingly awful, and it broke my heart. I really appreciate how realistic the break was, and the conversation that happens two years later - it felt real, not like something out of a Hollywood movie.

Well, the train was sent through echo, and unrelated to the crisis. 'It' wasn't trying to escape echo, but just passing through, therefore it was able to do so. At least, this is how I perceived it, and I accepted it without too much effort.

Why didn't they attempt to snap Leo out of it, tell him to his face that he was hallucinating?
Well, I think they reacted in a realistic way considering everything that was going on, and how traumatized they were. I was feeling a similar desperation like you - Why the hell can't chase or Kudzo just tell Leo he's going crazy?
But you know, they all were. I think we'd be surprised with our own inabilities if we were in the situation they were in. We all act differently, but we don't know how we will act. I've been through things myself, where I've gone into shock, and I can attest to this.

I was sort of assuming they talked to Leo though, when Chase was in the trailer with Kudzo and Jenna.

Drake424 years ago

I didn't think of the train just passing through so not being affected like that. Still seems kinda odd to me though, and not something I would do unless I had been chased towards the train! Honestly I would just hide and leave the town after!

Yeah, I understand that. I guess it's just my own experience losing childhood friends that would make me want to do anything I could to help then rather then leave them! Also I watched another friend having to brake to brake off a relationship for way worse then anything Leo did! I guess if I had a friend like leo who was under some kind of mental influence I'd rather stay with trying to help them rather then take risk like train jumping! And that goes back to the "why listen to what a druggy says" thats something I wouldn't do ether. That reminds me, years ago not to far from where I live some guy really did get mangled trying to get on a moving train, and it was moving pretty slow too!

Dewpoint4 years ago

You remember how they tried to drive out of echo in the van, right? (In the Leo timeline)

I too made the decision to break off with Leo, because he's become psychotic. I had a feeling it might take away his hope and purpose, but I just did not want to lie to him. It was his decision to stay behind, after all, and the relationship had already died at that point, and taken a backseat to pure survival. It was heartbreaking! But as such, a good example of the writing that nearly broke my mind, although along with other things I was experiencing as well, at the time.

Oh no.. that's horrible. Did he survive?

Drake424 years ago

Yeah, it does make sense the way it ends. But it's just so sad after seeing how they got together in route 65! Also very sad when Chase visits Leo two years later, he just seems totally broken! Like he's only living and has no hopes or anything to look foreword too! He says he's getting better, but he doesn't enjoy his life and seems he would just end up some old hermit all alone!

No the guy did not survive! A good reason I'd never have tried getting on that train in Echo!

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