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I agree with everything said here. I also happened to play through this waterfall place past the sportsdome that's supposed to be for one of the secret endings and good god this place is absolute trash tier. I think this is even harder than the final boss of the game, who does that? The First of all every single one of these weird shadow enemies are so bulky in HP I wasted some of my best items before even getting to the boss of this area, and speaking of the boss:
1. These three fish people are too bulky in HP, this battle went on for 15 minutes for me.
2. All three of them have the capability to heal everyone when they're all low on HP, effectively adding the extra 10 minutes I spent on this boss.
3. These enemies have too much HP.
4. The final, final fish guy after this battle is the most badly designed boss I have ever seen in any possible LISA fangame, and I just finished playing the demo of Lustful. This guy should have been killed the first time, giving him a second form just makes this battle drag on even longer. It also doesn't help that a random helper joins in as piles on that status ailment that makes allies refuse to be healed (why is that status even in the game?)
5. These. Enemies. Have. Too. Much. HP. More HP doesn't make a boss tougher, it just makes it longer, and makes you waste more items than you need to.

There's a fine line between hard and challenging, and hard and bullshit, and these update crossed the line of the latter by at least 50 miles. I don't feel like I lost these battles because it was my fault, I lost these battles because the RNG of my crits, stats, and dodges were not good enough. Does Stinkbomb EVER poison the target? Can intimidate actually intimidate enemies? Can hiding actually let me dodge attacks more often?

What was originally a decently balanced and overall enjoyable experience has now turned into one of the most stressful games I had the displeasure of experiencing this year, and I am extremely disappointed that Hopeful sank to the low of other Lisa fangames where things just need to keep getting harder and harder until you hemorrhage.

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I just  got through that waterfall area and I certainly see what you mean, those bosses are very tanky and just unpleasant to battle against.  Even with this recent patch that entire area is still in pretty bad shape. Now I'm at this winter area and even this place has a multitude of problems:

• No save crow OR campfire to heal your party before you enter the blizzard section of the map. BIG problem, especially considering the Hart gang henchmen blocking the way at the start of Area 4 used too many of my valuable items.
• The snow wolves and knife fighters covered in snow are (once again, like the other enemies in this update) too tanky in HP.
• The intermittent icy winds that deal weather damage to you on the overworld. At first it's not an issue, but later on the winds start dealing actually hard residual damage to you, making you too weak to battle against any wolves that are hard to avoid because of how you run against the wind. Would be much more tolerable if I could actually heal my team with a campfire. I don't know why but there just stopped being usable campfires after I left the waterfall area, which is a problem because at this point I don't have very many items left to keep my team alive.
• With a certain party member gone at this point in this particular story route, I don't have an AOE healer anymore.
• Let's talk about how equally tanky and tedious the mutant and group of Hart henchman are in Shiver City. Once again too much HP, they hit too hard for what the average expected level your team should be at this point, and I still don't have enough items to keep my team alive. This is honestly what I'm expecting to happen for the rest of this storyline, so whatever enemies that appear after this point should be nerfed too. I understand it's a common retort to "get good" at these games, but that shouldn't be an excuse to leave flawed game design as is.

I sincerely hope the developer sees these comments (I don't have Discord for whatever server being advertised), because these are serious problems. To be perfectly honest this update came out too soon; there should have been a lot more extensive testing with balancing out this new content better. I feel like I'm playing a late alpha build again rather than a "definitive" final release.

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Yep, the reviews are a helpful perspective and I've been changing a lot of these things. I agree about there not being enough playtesting.

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I appreciate the reply. I got one last request: Is there a brief guide on how to trigger the Lanks and Cyclops routes?

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Yep. In the Sportsdome you can talk to your party members between tournament matches when you can explore. You need to give them the right response 4 times and you'll trigger the route. Note that if you talk to both of them the one you talk to last will be the route that is activated. As for what the correct responses are, the hint is that you challenge your party members rather than side with them.


If that's not enough, spoilers: top answers for Lanks bottom answers for Cyclops