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Then I'm happy to report that these are genuine bonafide neonazis! One hundred percent actual literal fascists that want to kill anyone unlike them (including but not limited to the four gay protagonists of this story). Made in America's late-capitalist imperialist hell regime and imported directly to an alternate universe where most technology is made out of meat. Seriously, I don't get where you're coming from here -- do you live in a world where neonazis don't exist? Because where I'm from, they're fuckin' frequent.

If this game isn't for you, feel free to not play it. If you bought a copy and turned out to not enjoy it, I'll gladly give you a refund. But don't come in here complaining about a game you haven't played just because of your own preconceptions of what it must be.

Piecewise6 years ago (4 edits) (+3)(-40)

Where do you live where you see literal neo-nazi fascists just wandering around in SS uniforms on the street? I was given to believe they mostly hung out in basements and screamed about things on the internet. It doesn't sound like a very nice place, wherever it is.

In any case, if you feel somehow attacked by this post I'll delete it. I'm not defending actual fascists, racists, sexists, etc, I've just seen a lot of very angry and exaggerated rhetoric lately and was hoping this game wasn't a victim of it. Nazi is a pretty powerful word and when it gets applied to garden variety jerks or just people who don't agree with something, it waters it down. It makes real neo-nazis less of the gut punch of terrible that they actually are. I already see people on your twitter conflating me with being one. Its becoming Reductio ad Hitlerum and I worry that it will normalize actual neo nazis by making people inoculated to the word/idea.

And no, I haven't played it yet. But thats because it isn't finished yet and I don't like playing episodic games if all the episodes aren't out yet. Half Life 2 fooled me once.

Heather Flowers6 years ago (1 edit) (+28)(-3)

If you're looking for something that isn't intensely angry and intensely political you've come to the wrong game. Again, really not sure why you feel the need to comment if it's clear you don't actually want to play the game.

Update: saw you edited this while I was replying to it. Nobody on my twitter called you a nazi, the thing normalizing neonazis isn't people saying "neonazis are bad" but instead the people saying "neonazis are good", and whether you play the game is of very little concern to me. That said, the fact that you're trying to talk down at me about the politics of a game that you haven't played and that I have spent literal months making says a lot about you as a person. Now say something constructive or don't say anything at all.

Piecewise6 years ago(+3)(-25)

I'm not talking down to you? At least not intentionally. I'm expressing my opinion and then explaining it. Again, if that is offensive to you, I'm sorry.

Since this seems to be going nowhere fast I'll just leave it at that.

xnopasaranx4 years ago (1 edit) (+5)(-1)

Well I live in Germany and eventhough people don't want to hear it and argue about it all the time, there is literal nazis everywhere. They are in our parliaments, on talk shows, teaching in universities and schools and massively present and active in police and military. Not a week goes by, without hearing about more nazi infrastructure being uncovered, cops stashing munitions and weapons on the side for "day X" or cops who post openly racist and völkisch bullshit on twitter or cops exfiltrating information about LGBTQ and antifacist activists to neonazis so they can terrorize them. I think the representation in this game is very accurate, looking at the UK, France, Italy, Hungary, Rumania, the US and russia it seems to be the same. Only difference to reality: Reality is less colorful and we don't have mechs to stomp the facists, otherwise I'd be out there crushing them. They have already been normalized, let's call them by their names: NAZIS. They are not just alt-right or libertarian or whatever the fuck they call themselves. EDIT: sorry, I know this discussion is 2 years old, but I just had to add that.

Piecewise4 years ago(+1)(-6)

Wait...are you honestly conflating "Libertarian" with Nazi? Libertarian is literally the exact opposite of Nazis in basically every form. Nazis were hard nationalist fascists while libertarians are basically diet anarchists. One seeks total governmental control, the other seeks almost total governmental abolishment. Its literally like claiming Communists are secretly Capitalists. They're just not the same.

If you really believe that then...I think your society's obsession with Nazis and fear of returning to them is coloring your perception of reality.

xnopasaranx4 years ago (1 edit) (+5)(-1)

no I am not, they are conflating those ideas. iam not calling libertarians fascists, just pointing out a number of right wing radicals claim to be libertarians nowadays. look up right wing libertarianism and educate yourself about "querfront" tactics, and yes libertarian fascism exists as well. I am an anarchist myself and have had to discuss human rights with those nazis claiming to be libertarians, while they were defending social darwinism. and don't lecture me on nazis in my country. look up AFD in Germany, the "die rechte" party, the NPD, the "identitarian movement" and ~~the third way~~ "the third path" (correction as in German they are called "der dritte weg"). those are nazis and they are really active here. they don't goosestep anymore, they don't argue with race but instead with "culture", but it's the same old bs just in a new coat of paint. parents here told us as children facism had been overcome, but it hads not. your assumptions about fascism aren't entirely correct either. there were different fascist movements, the german fascists diverged a lot from the italian fascists for example. they even called their movement national socialism (who is conflating what now?). but that is historical fascism.

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