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I don't really think the alpha became a swamp werewolf, what I think is that it was some other werewolf, since, when we were searching for a cure on the teacher's books there was a mention on how the werewolves weren't seen around Bareshade for like 30 or 50 years I don't remember exactly, and the herbalist themselve questions where did the alpha come from since, if, he was living in the area with the capability to create werewolves for so long then how come nobody noticed him, so I think the alpha split from some pack somewhere else and migrated to the forest near Bareshade and now another one of that pack is coming to the area or it was another type of werebeast(?) altogether or alternatively the white beast of the rumor could be the alpha fleeing from the area since he lost his position to Logan.

I think the chance of Ruben being involved in the swamp werewolf fiasco is very slim since he seems very interested in potion brewing and potion development and creating a variant of swamp creature doesn't really seem to align with that, and Hissh is kinda busy planning a coup so the only viable option for me is either the witch or something new is interfering with the swamp and is trying to strengthen the swamp creatures for some reason.

I actually think the golems are protecting a gem or something similar, since Ruben mentioned "the heart" or something it's been a while since I had that dialogue with him, that the father is protecting, I also don't think the father is even an emerine golem to begin with, and I'm not even sure why I think that, but in my mind it makes sense that he is another race entirely from the golems, and if I'm right then the plot with them could go something like the herbalist helping them develop some independence and learn to live for themselves contrary to living in function of another

Melli_fluous2 years ago(+2)

I don't think the Alpha would run away, and the situation it's kinda complex because Logan is the new Alpha but he dispite werewolves so he don't want them near Bareshade, so probably the werewolves are confused to what to do and the white Alpha kinda of protects de den (I think).

I am just saying that Ruben could be a suspect and I really think it is him idk. And the Witch also is a big suspect but why she would do it by herself? We already owe two favors to her so why she doesn't make us do that? If she doesn't want to use the favors to do that then must be something else, maybe something worse.

I also think that the heart is another gem, but I don't know if the Father is a golem or something else. And I agree that the plot must be something like what you said.

Just Nonsense2 years ago(+2)

Yeah the alpha simply bailing on the pack on the first sign of trouble would be weird even if he doesn't hold the alpha position anymore which leaves us with the possibility that it's another white werewolf or werebeast, it could also just be the alpha trying to drag Logan's attention to the pack somehow.

And it certainly could be Ruben since I have trust issues and unless people plainly declare what their intentions are, I cannot fully trust them, tho it brings me to question what he would gain from creating a new breed of swamp creature maybe going with the mad scientist vibe me and Toothless got going with our theories regarding him, he could be collecting data on how different creatures react to having their biologies drastically changed or maybe he's trying to create super soldiers or just hybrids for the secret organisation that he is probably part of.

If it's the witch and not some other power, then she could not be cashing in the favours because she doesn't really need help with what she's doing or she's just hording them for when she knows that she'll really need them like on a dramatic showdown in the future or some confrontation scene.

Circling back to the Golems I think the father is not one of them because of the vagueness we get from Ruben, sure he didn't really want to talk about the topic to begin with but he got extra vague when he got to the part about the father and just gave the need to know information, the father is important, he's guarding something, he got pissed with Ruben and expelled him from there, also if they're really guarding a gem and the father was some race not the golems them it would be easier to have something happen to him, like the golems are easily manipulated but I doubt they're easy to harm, they're covered in magic glow rocks that are super hard and they just seem inexhaustible so their endurance/constitution must be pretty high, so yea, anyway the reason that something needs to happen to the father is to expose how the golems's society is flawed and to trigger the whole live for yourself mentality, of course that would come after solving the whole debacle with whatever happens with the father and the drama that ensues.

Something completely unrelated to what was being talked above do you think that the rat king is actually a fake king of the ratkin and the real one is actually scrap? Or at least Scrap is similar to a rat king. Like this been floating in the back of my brain for a while now but Scrap and the Rat king are the only ratkin that show individuality from the rest to the point of actually having distinct personalities and interests(even if the Rat king can be debated on that account), Scrap has also shown animosity towards the Rat king that is not his usual I'm disgusted, or I'm afraid so and as for the Rat king... He really doesn't care about anything his position is more of an empty title than anything else and we don't have enough interactions with him to allow a deeper personality analysis or character flashing out, so...

Melli_fluous2 years ago(+2)

In game says that the white beast was seen during the day and what was told in the game is that werewolves are night creatures, so they would be mostly sleeping during the day. Could be another white werewolf, a stronger one. But could be another werebeast.

Sometimes I can be like that too, I can understand you in some degree. If it's Ruben, I really want to know his motives, why would he do that? Could be so many things.

I think he was THAT vague is because he doesn't know that much about the Father, he didn't tell everything he knows of course but I don't think he could have all the answers. I think the characters we know less about are people from Northcrest, putting werewolves aside.

I don't think he's a fake king, you described in the most perfect way possible: it's just a empty title. But I don't have any theories about why he is different from other ratkins, probably because he's older or something.

I think Scrap is different because he was born different. If I am correct he was born with albinism, making his fur being white, that's probably why he's short and pretty much being bullied. And because the ratking wouldn't help him it wouldn't be a surprise he doesn't like the ratking.

Just Nonsense2 years ago(+1)

I generally base the werewolves habits to that of normal wolves and while normal wolves are nocturnal animals they can and are active during day time especially when there's something happening like when one them is sick or pregnant or when they're migrating to new territories.

And yes because we know so little about people in Northcrest I expect a backstabbing at every moment we're interacting with them.

Also while the Rat king's position is an empty one it somehow feels like a tradition that has been around for so long it lost meaning, so I think that originally the Rat king title held some importance and meaning to ratkin society but that was lost with time and ended up becoming this empty title that goes to the biggest ratkin around because they're the "strongest" tho the Rat king is obviously not that strong and he's just as weak to shows of strength as any other ratkin because of their natural inclination to being cowards.

Also I have this weird theory that scrap is the Rat king's unwanted son and he's different due to his genes, though because Scrap was born small the other rats just don't respect him, I don't really think Scrap has albinism he's just a white ratkin dwarfism or some kind of bad formation are more likely to be the reason why the others treat him like that, since it was mentioned he is human sized in height when all others of his species are taller than humans that is kind of weird. Alternatively he could be different because he's half human... actually how do ratkin reproduce they're all males no? Can they get each other pregnant? Do they impregnate other species, and the child is always a ratkin? Are there female ratkin and we somehow never encountered them before? Damn time to add that to the pile of unanswered questions...

xXToothless113Xx2 years ago(+2)

The idea that it's another creature or WereBeast actually sounds incredibly awesome! like what if it's a WereBear? or a WereLion/Cat dude? we could have AN ENTIRELY NEW PEOPLE TO DISCOVER AND HARASS OFF THE BASIS OF ONE SHOWING THEMSELF BY ACCIDENT!!!!!!

and him being vague feels like something his type of person would do unless he believes we can help him with it or are trustworthy enough which so far, we are neither.

and yeah, I like the idea of him being a fake king, even if it's not likely as I said in my reply up above it could be a pretty cool storyline! (Also yeah, the condition is called albinism and it usually causes animals/people to have no/less melanin in the skin, so they are seen as white. but it also usually gives them red eyes sometimes)

Just Nonsense2 years ago (1 edit) (+2)

I said that he probably doesn't have albinism because any person or animal with that condition is extremely sensitive to sunlight, like really sensitive to sunlight, to the point it harms them horribly and Scrap doesn't seem to have any problem with that so his fur might just white naturally, since there is white rats that aren't albine.

Please give me more werebeasts there can never be enough of them.

And I agree that that's just how Ruben is, but he was kinda of extra vague there and he was low-key kind of saying you don't know what you're dealing with so fuck off.

xXToothless113Xx2 years ago(+1)

oh, I agree, also the fact that his eyes seem to be more blue than red, I'm just stating Albinism is a thing and could be a possibility. (i did not know about the sensitivity to sunlight though, which kinda debunks this as well)

and yes. more Werebeasts in general. give me MORE KINGS!

I didn't think of it as "you don't know what's going on fuck off" but now i can see that from his interactions.... even when we first started talking and he says anything to us he seems like that...

Melli_fluous2 years ago(+1)

It's still kinda weird he's the only white ratkin in the place literally full of rats.

More werebeasts, more werebeasts!

Ruben is really trying to keep us away from important information.

Melli_fluous2 years ago(+2)

Well, if the werewolves are indeed acting like normal wolves, then there is a chance that it is the Alpha that appeared during the day. Because the pack was in danger. Also, yeah, more werebeasts would be kinda cool.

About ratkin reproducing, it is weird that we didn't saw any female ratkin yet.

People who are extremely vague even about a topic like that really is suspicious.

Also wait, Just Nonsense is brazilian?

Just Nonsense2 years ago

Yes I am brazilian

Melli_fluous2 years ago

Really? Me too.

Just Nonsense2 years ago (1 edit) (+1)

Ora ora ora parece que os BR estão em todo quanto é canto, não é mesmo?

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xXToothless113Xx2 years ago(+2)

what if the Alpha was the reason Logan knew about the pack being in trouble? like when he was near Bareshade he did something that alerted Logan about the packs distress and how he needed to help?

now everything else is quite literally almost exactly how I feel so I won't comment on that, but the rat king being a fake king sounds interesting, like what if the previous rat king was a scavenger and built things but ended up being dethroned by the current one because he was able to awaken an old trait of the rat people? (The sexual insatiability) and he caused him to go insane with lust? and Scrap being resistant could be a sign of evolution in the kind and us causing him to regress could be us doing what the current king did and now need to help him overthrow the current one if we keep him on the sexual path? or let the current one stay and have Scrap integrate into society? maybe we could even start a whole new people with Scrap as the leader!

Melli_fluous2 years ago

I think Logan himself said that he felt that something was wrong in the den and I guess he went to check, just to see what happened.

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