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GreatWyrmGold2 years ago

I had a flashback scene of Diotima's past which sounded very pointedly like it would apply to Youmu's argument. I believe it even said I got that exact Idea. But when I went to present it to her, and the Idea just wasn't there. Which is frustrating, because the game was enjoyable up to that point...

...aside from the times that I presented seemingly applicable arguments and lost Credibility because Diotima couldn't figure out the connection there, and the fact that this is a jam game with no save slots, meaning that running out of Credibility meant I had to start over from the beginning.

I really want to see how the game ends, but I'm not sure I want to replay most of the game over and over until I figure out what arguments are right and how to not lose the important ideas.

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Jacoder232 years ago (1 edit)

Which of Youmu’s arguments were you on? That flashback does work on a later argument. If it doesn’t though you might have stumbled into a glitch.

I’ll be putting out a spoilered walkthrough later with exact solutions, sorry to hear about that! Glad you at least enjoyed it until that point.

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GreatWyrmGold2 years ago

"[Love] is a trade and a deal that manifests in many forms; but comes down to sacrifice and compromise."

YOUMU: I thought about what you said.
YOUMU: And I think you have a point.
DIOTIMA: What point would that be?
YOUMU: That love must be negative overall.

And like I said, the problem isn't that the idea doesn't work, it just doesn't show up. The flashback says...

GAINED “LOVE IS, DESPITE SUFFERING, ULTIMATELY GOOD.”

...but the first two times I tried, the idea did not actually show up in my idea list. It did when I replayed to get the exact text, and I wish I'd paid attention to the exact order of events each time.

Two last notes:

1. How do you spoiler stuff on itch? I feel like some of this should be spoilered.
2. Should I be disappointed that you didn't include a single "baby don't hurt me" in this game about "what is love?", or impressed by your restraint?

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Jacoder232 years ago (2 edits)

Oooooooh well when I had to spoiler something for a review before I just linked to an image/text with the spoiler. Should do the trick.

And yes you appear to have stumbled onto a glitch! Welp, that’s not great. I’ll check the code and see if I can get a patch out since well, that is supposed to work.

I think you should be listening to the song while playing the game really. It’s really core to the story. Mute the piano music I just didn’t use the song because I lacked the rights.

EDIT: Patch is out, should be fixed.

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