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I don't mean to be THAT PERSON but I have to be honest.

Several of these look like sprite-rips from NES/gameboy games. Let me give some details based on the (one) slanted screenshot available.

Starting from the bottom...necklace that is the upside-down 'triforce' (4th column last row) and the one next to that seem far too similar to the ones from Link to the Past and some of the Zelda gameboy games. In fact many of these seem like spritesheet rips from gameboy games in general. The familiarity is something I'm acutely aware of precisely because I'm a longstanding member of the rom hacking/modding community for emulation and retro games.

TLDR the rest:

-Bow & Arrow ripped from Link to the Past
-At least 2 of the potions sprites ripped from LttP and/or other zelda gameboy games
-The hooked staff at the bottom is a direct 1 to 1 sprite rip from Final Fantasy 1 on NES. Don't even try to deny that lol. Really obvious to nearly anyone who's ever played it.
-Speaking of staves, at least 2 to 3 of them in the same 'staff' row are ripped from LttP (again) because you use at least one of them to 'freeze' things for puzzles.
-The boots are interesting because they don't look like stuff from typical NES games; I've seen at least one or two boot sprites ripped from the game Strider for NES. I'd have to go back and do a side by side to make sure exactly which one but I know that it is one of two possibilities.
-Helmets, Axes, and Lances all look familiar though I'd have to dig and get a side by side on which game they are from. I have a good idea just from looking at them though.

Would love for the creator to show some proof of self-creation/authorship and that these aren't just ripped from other games. If they'd like me to post some side by sides then I'll dig around and do so.

Stello Hexis5 years ago(+6)

Ok, so basically you see some patterns or similarities in my work to other works and then you claim that it's ripped off? Great conclusion.

Justin Back5 years ago(+5)

I don't mean to be THAT PERSON but I have to be honest.

Several of these look like sprite-rips from NES/gameboy games. Let me give some details based on the (one) slanted screenshot available

I know right... he has so many possibilities to make something with an 8x8 sprite. THAT MUST BE STOLEN /sarcasm

Starting from the bottom...necklace that is the upside-down 'triforce' (4th column last row) and the one next to that seem far too similar to the ones from Link to the Past and some of the Zelda gameboy games. In fact many of these seem like spritesheet rips from gameboy games in general

Wait what. That heart shaped necklace? Guess you are delusional because how does that look like a triforce? Guess your experience in the "rom masterhacking/modding community" isnt that great, sure I can register and keep my account there for years, that makes me a longstanding member too. Lets compare something shall we?

The image above is a zelda triforce necklace, it has 4 triangles in total, one ENCLOSING in the middle

The other image above however does look like a heart to me, it has zero resemblence from a triforce, no triangle in the middle nor the order of the 3 triangles. Alright, lets move on.

Bow & Arrow ripped from Link to the Past

Yeah I have a bow at home too, shit, I stole it from Zelda right?!?

At least 2 of the potions sprites ripped from LttP and/or other zelda gameboy games

A flask is a flask, its not like copyright laws existed in the middle ages right?

The hooked staff at the bottom is a direct 1 to 1 sprite rip from Final Fantasy 1 on NES. Don't even try to deny that lol. Really obvious to nearly anyone who's ever played it

Yet again, a staff is just a stick, not much you can design here.

The boots are interesting because they don't look like stuff from typical NES games

Is that a compliment?

Helmets, Axes, and Lances all look familiar though I'd have to dig and get a side by side on which game they are from. I have a good idea just from looking at them though

Ok ok ok hold on.... I just leave this here

Thats enough rant for today, have a nice day mate!

DaedalusMachina5 years ago(-10)

I took a few hours and did some more in-depth side by side comparisons based upon what I initially posted.
While I stand by my initial posting (and clarify that my language was purposefully opinion-based), I wanted to further expand upon my new findings.
-The various necklace designs appear similar to those found in other retro games; my intial impressions about similarity to certain GameBoy game sprites was indeed correct.
-Bow and Arrow is not a direct 1:1 rip from LttP like I initially thought, but it is similar enough with very minute variations as to copy the 'look and feel' of said item in said game.
-The hooked staff from FF1 and the potions in general. All have been (slightly) modified to avoid direct infringement but it still is far too close IMHO.
-I double checked the Strider boots and it is no wonder I was calling it a direct sprite rip. Jeez. The 'Strider' NES style of spritework is unique among the field of NES 8-bit spritework and while the asset-based boots on offer here are not 1:1 copies, they are DAMN close, even so far as to have the unique buckle on the base and the curve on the 'top' of the boot. The slant of the screenshot makes it difficult to do a precise comparison at this time.
-For everything else, I have compared them to both NES and gameboy sprites and found very striking similarities to existing artwork from older games.

TLDR: I haven't found direct 1:1 rips from older retro game sprites at this time. I would still caution against any developer considering obtaining this 'asset pack' for their own games because the striking similarities to older titles is far too close and may be seen as too derivative/cloneish. There's a fine line between homage and outright plagiarism. I'll give the asset pack seller the benefit of the doubt and presume they are on the homage side of things.

Stello Hexis5 years ago (1 edit) (+7)(-1)

I'm so sorry that this 1 bit asset pack didn't meet your standards and that you had to look for hours to find that your claim is unfounded, but I thank you for your rigurous and unsolicited search as you have now demostrated that these are in fact original. Any person who has bought this pack can now feel assured about using it for their game. Thank you friend here's a free bow and arrow:

Justin Back5 years ago(+7)(-1)

DaedalusMachina5 years ago(-10)

Your snark is disappointing, disgraceful, and unbecoming of a professional game developer.
What a shame :P

Justin Back5 years ago(+4)(-1)

Not sure to which person this was directed at but a little humor doesn't hurt at all. I am not snarked (Is that correctly spelled?) nor disgraceful. It's just shitty of a person like you to degrade someones work by providing "facts" which aren't true. Research better in the future please, this will hurt other people's reputation or in rare cases your own.

DaedalusMachina5 years ago(-10)

My comments were exclusively aimed at the 'developer' of this asset pack (and associated game). Your contributions to this thread are not desired nor required unless you wish to engage in an actual discussion. I stand by all statements I made (none of which were statements that I declared were 'facts' but were clearly 'opinions' by default). If you are unaware of the difference between facts/opinions then perhaps you may ask Google for assistance.

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