Well, it's the 12/10/22, so we'll see... More and more I am just looking for finished games, because when it comes to non finished AVNs, you never know when it's going to be finished, if ever. I mean if it's over a year for an update that gets us to about half the game, that's 3-4 years before a finished game... On that basis I will wait for the finished game, because over a year between updates would mean i'd have to restart anyway every update.