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I'm at my wit's end here and consulting videos to try to progress.

In this video the uploader collects girth powerups at the 1:48:21 and 2:36:13 marks and ends up with 18 girth. I've collected each of these and am only at 16 girth, and I'm at a complete loss as to how to progress. Are puzzles like the red button lock gate at the start of the blue area (3:03:53) possible with 16 girth? Is there another girth powerup that's currently accessible with some combination of walk/jump/eat/stick?

Any advice would be helpful.
https://imgur.com/a/ECxPyD9

Here's my current map.

Hempuli1 year ago(+1)

I've nerfed the amount of girth you can get because girth ended up being a *really* powerful upgrade that trivialized some puzzles. The game has been balanced so that you shouldn't need more than 14 girth to get everything; however, that particular blue room was initially set up badly (and the layout seen on the AuthorBlues video is the old, bad layout); there should be more vertical space for maneuvering there.

However, there's also a semi-unintended trick for that specific room - once you enter, the golden teleport activates, so you can teleport to it and skip this particular puzzle. It's not the intended solution but might save some frustration.

Tempo1 year ago

Is the blue room in question solvable with 14<=girth<=16 and the walk/jump/bite/stick powerups, or do I need to look elsewhere to progress? To be direct, when trying to deduce the necessary steps for solving this puzzle with 14<=girth<=16 girth and only these powerups, the puzzle seems impossible.

That the old layout had to be changed to be three tiles high makes me strongly suspect what the intended solution is here, but with the constraints of a 2x3 body layout, I simply can't see how this is doable without the delete powerup. After scanning videos to determine where to get delete, this seems like the bottleneck I'm going to have to surmount, which creates an unsolvable problem (if I am correct).

I'm aware that I could be making some flawed assumptions that have lead to incorrect conclusions, but at this point I'd like to be told explicitly whether this is solvable with what I have. Discounting speedruns, which I don't want to watch because their times suggest they feature game-breaking exploits, every upload of this game I've found (I've scanned through every playthrough I could find) solves this room either by abusing girth or the teleportation room mechanic.

Hempuli1 year ago(+1)

I just now went and tested, and can confirm that in the version where the button room is one tile taller (i.e. 3 tiles tall in total), you can get through the gate with 16 girth. I was able to do it somewhat jankily with 12, and then less jankily with exactly 16.

Tempo1 year ago

With only walk/jump/bite/stick?

Hempuli1 year ago(+1)

Yup!

Tempo1 year ago

Damn, I've been confirmed dumb. Thanks for the help Hempuli.

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