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Again with the pointless distractions that have no bearing on the topic at hand.

Spoken like someone who doesn't have the first clue what creativity is. What you're describing is giving instructions for *someone else* to create something. They are doing the creative work in this scenario (to the extent that AI output can be called 'creative'), not you. You are a client commissioning an image, nothing more.

I am well aware of what the article says. Valve is being cautious because they would be legally liable if they didn't, and they make a point of never having opinions about anything, but there is no ambiguity.

In fact these things ARE already covered by existing laws and the only reason we're having this conversation is that asshole tech bros without principles continually break the law and then hope they can get away with it by buying politicians AFTER they've already broken it (see the entire history of Silicon Valley).

"a creative expression is not needed for art" LOL

This conversation is not worth continuing.

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"a creative expression is not needed for art" LOL

You fail to argue against that statement. Laughing and belittling is not arguing. 

Look at a caricature painter on street. Is he expressing his feelings when doing a caricature of you in a few minutes? Or is he working and applying his skill? Is his painting  art or is it not?

What do you think about the artistic work of a photographer? Is it art, when he waits for the perfect moment to take a picture of a sunset?  Was it creative expression?  What did he create exactly and how?  He just took a picture!  He only decided what picture to take. Or he made hundreds and thousands of pictures and selected  a few.  Sometimes he arranged things and selects influences like lighting. Or directs people how to pose for the camera.   Yet people make art books from such photos, call it art and I do not know of any discussion that people do not consider it art.  

What does an AI operator do?   He arranges things, influences the composition of the image and selects the good ones. If what a photographer does is art,  what an AI operator does is art too. On a technical level, what the AI does is not art, but that is like saying the camera does not do art. Of course not. They are things.

Oh, and I believe a photographer also has copyright for his creations, even if he does not own the sun and the landscape. That AI creations have apparantly no copyright is on thin ice, because there is still humans involved.