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Alright so! MAJOR SPOILERS (as we will be starting from the start of gathering clues all the way to the latest) but allow me to help guide with the undeniable fact that we all have a hard time trying to find all the clues and keep getting the obsessive Doctor Rose in our ass (well for me personally...). Also that I rejoiced tears of pure happiness when I finally didn't have to see Doctor Rose's stupid mask.

NOTE: Important thing to mention is that I was playing in Asriel's romantic route, therefore some of my decisions are based on that. If you either play a different RO's route or the friendship route, do try to experiment around for the RO's romantic route and maybe investigate the different clues.










Chapter 3

  • During the gunshoot scene, move to go to the window.
  • Go to the man that's kneeling to comfort him.
  • When you have time before you go to work, go visit Daisy.
  • Then, go treat yourself for a nice lunch.

Chapter 4

  • Go for a run at night time.
  • Then, linger and assess.
  • Visit the swan park during the "date" or maybe guide segment (I dunno if it's available for all since I'm playing exclusively for Asriel but I assume it has to be!)

Chapter 5

  • THIS IS IMPORTANT! Buy a new pillow so Gaster won't kill your ass.
  • Then relax at home, also VERY IMPORTANT as it unlocks clues that Mr. Scott can give us.
  • Decide to check up on him, poor man is not only feeding us information but also going through grief.
  • This segment is where you continuously pry for information, and since Gaster won't woop yo ass you'll get to live another day and NOT experience Bad Ending 3 (am I still bitter?? Hell yes!)

Chapter 6

  • I'm not sure if this is necessary (since I'm on the Asriel route) but since this connects to another key part, if Asriel invites you to go to the movies with him and Chara, go so you can be acquainted with Chara early on. (Again, I'm not sure if this is exclusive or not but I have died like... more than 3 times at this point from either GASTER or DOCTOR FUCKING ROSE so I am traumatized.)
  • Also if you're on that route, just praise the chocolate lords so Chara be like "Yes, this is my best friend/partner, Asriel go find your own".
  • Stay when you find out that the Black Swan is not technically short staffed.
  • When Chara and Asriel ask you about your brother, answer honestly.
  • When they ask if they could help you, choose to leave with them.
  • AND IF YOU GET THE MEMORY OF LAWRENCE AT THE ENDING OF CHAPTER 6, CONGRATS YOU ARE FREE FROM THE HELL OF EITHER DYING BY DOCTOR ROSE OR SOME OTHER SICK BASTARD! HALLELUJAH!

Chapter 7

  • If done properly, you should have the option to check on Mr. Scott's apartment before or after (if not, go back to the beginning or as where I did, whether you want a friendship or romantic route) for me I chose before the morning run.
  • Step inside and investigate wherein you will meet with Edward.
  • Upon entering, you will try to connect the clues but choose the "maybe they're all connected" option.
  • Now here you'll meet Edward wherein you will lie and butter up to him (in the first choice to get him to be interested in you) so choose to call them to wait. I can provide a detail explanation but if you wanna try by yourself, just know that Edward apparently wants lies where Mr. Scott actually liked him even though it was obvious he hated him and he'll open up about the Dreamless Beast.
  • Here is a more condensed guide if you just don't want to take chances: Compliment watch, father must be proud, Mr. Scott must have adored you, and Mr. Scott looking forward to your visits.
  • AND FINALLY! If you were able to get the ending where you were able to ask "someone" (I'm not sure if it's automatically Asriel or if it can be anyone else) for help then congrats amigo! You passed the death sequences!!

I am finally free... I hope this helped ya'll! And also I just wanted to say HOLY FUCK THAT WAS INTENSE I ABSOLUTELY ADORED IT!!!

NOTE: I think a sign that says that you're on the Doctor Rose Bastard Bad Ending is when you recieve a bouquet of yellow roses by your door coupled with a cheesy poem (from my experience). If that happens, quickly go back on your save file annd go. I think the ways you can trigger it (in my experience) is if you set your favorite flower as yellow roses, painting a picture of your yellow roses, and instead of going to the swan park, you go to another dessert shop and witness the crime scene of Doctor Rose Bastard. Maybe that's why he's so obsessed with you?

Either way, as long as you avoid them, maybe you won't get his bad endings when you get incomplete clues or not enough affection with your intended RO's. Goodluck, soldiers o7

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oof I literally did all that but Sans just kills me for leaving with Ralsei and Chara in chapter 6 and idk how to avoid that- (I'm on the sans route)

Hmm I'm not too sure as well because I did saw a comment talking about how Sans would kill them for going out with Ralsei and Chara, have you tried staying a second time in the bar before moving on?

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Yep, I did. And then I got killed by doctor Rose after doing that qwq

Did you by any chance decided to take it slow with sans?

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Well, after your comment I did try picking that option, but that still doesn't do anything significant.. he still kills me 

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Sans only kidnaps you if you don't return his affections on the date. You know you're on the good path with him if your first dessert option hanging out with Ralsei is a cinnamon pretzel. 

I love how niche that is-- cinnamon pretzel saves the Sans route!

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Omg yes I finally got past him! Tyy!! ^^

the cinnamon pretzel is probably because when you ask him about his favourite dessert he says that its cin-pretzel! very nice detail

Maybe your affection with Sans is still low or you're missing some options? You might want to save religiously and fuck around and find out at this point :')))

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Yep I did just that, I hadn't chosen the cinnamon pretzels in the dessert options, so he killed me for it, lol

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I really appreciate you making this. (: Was reluctant to do a big guide since this is a mystery~~~ so very happy to see this made!

No problem! Though it is kinda biased since I'm on the Asriel route so I'm not sure if it can be helpful to peeps who are on different routes themselves, but maybe it can give them an idea of what to expect?

Either way, absolutely looking forward to this unravelling mystery! But also at the same time, good luck friend having to write all of these threads around :'))) !!

I'm still being killed by the goofy rose bastard but i followed all your steps, help?

Okay, so important question is if you're in a romantic route that isn't Asriel or in the friendship route, because some of my steps are from my experience while I was playing in Asriel's route. I'm unsure how you can trigger Rose Bastard but I think it's because for my character, I had it put that her favorite rose was yellow rose and she painted a picture of her yellow roses, and if somewhere in Chapter 4 (I think) you receive a bouquet of yellow roses with a cheesy poem, that means you're gunning for Rose Bastard's bad ending and that you must have missed either a clue or a romantic trigger with your chosen love interest (again, I'm unsure regarding the friendship route, maybe it's all about clues instead?) I hope this has helped in triggering your deductive senses, just save liberally and have some patience (that or you can rage quit without hurting yourself to relieve the stress)!

does picking the yellow flower as your favorite have something to do with doctor rose killing you?

Hello! I'm not too sure entirely but I think if you pick too many choices that coincide with Doctor Rose's motive or method of killing, then he'll be interested in you and hunt you down if you don't gather clues or raise your affection with your chosen LI. It's all just speculation lmao

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THANK YOU SM literally this was the comment that rlly helped me bc when i first played through i didn't even know who edward was and was so confused

No problem! I understand that it can get really confusing especially with the mysterious factors and how easy it can get a bad ending if you're not careful. But now that you know the way to complete the story I highly recommend you replay the story and take your time reading it since it's genuinely so cool! Let's wish all of ourselves luck for the next update AHAHAHH

Definitely gonna replay now that Ik what to do! This game is so thought out it makes me want to play through every route just to read it