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I finally gave this a lot more time than I did before.

I still think there's way too much menuing but you already know that, some small things related to that though:

I still thing the action system is really nice.

Why the pause screen on tutorial start? Seems unnecessary.

The Fiend Slayer smugness level thingy when entering the dungeon would work better as a stepped slider than a row of radio buttons.

Talking about that UI, the jump from respect 4 to 5 seems pretty large.

The dungeon button at the bottom sticks around when you're already on the dungeon screen and  when you click it it just takes you to the same screen but without the button.

Now the gameplay. A big part of your game is of course to go fast but there's quite a few things that just don't work well for that I think and slow you down constantly. First of, anything involving crates. They're just too small. Bouncing on them is finnicky as well as picking them up. Even when I was sure I'd hit one I'd still often find myself in lava or slime. They break momentum and that just isn't much fun. When picking them up I found myself often just slightly out of range or slightly off-angle. Just make the collision check for that a bit bigger. Same applies to levers as well. Those should also be more visible, larger and more contrasting against the walls ideally. I also never really knew what a lever did since they're often away from whatever gate they open. Maybe have portal-style lines on the ground and walls. He Who Watches does it in a more fantasy style just fine so I could see it working here too.

Talking about levers, just let me use left click to interact with them, same with milk. I don't see a reason to have left click to pick up stuff an E to interact separate inputs.

I think the default choice of seals is terrible. I found myself soft-locked in the dungeon without any mana regeneration several times before I realized it's the mana regen -1 seal. I thought it would just slow it down, but there was just none. At least that one should not be default.

Related to that, the layout I started to get stuck in in Babysteps++. The jump in difficulty from Babysteps+ to that is just insane.  Needs smoothing out. What made it worse is that I had the bright idea to waste all my gold on costumes instead of unlocking bunny girls so I'd go into those suddenly too hard dungeons, often not even find guests and just run out of time (usually because I got stuck with no mana) or leave. This lost me money to the point that I couldn't unlock anything and just started a new save. How do you even lose money? Is there some daily fee? Does not finishing the main objectives lose you money? Couldn't make sense of it.

Oh yeah, make flower pots shatter when I throw them.

Thanks for playing. Sorry if my reply is going to sound very defensive, there are just specific reasons for many things you had problems with.

Why the pause screen on tutorial start? Seems unnecessary.

The idea was that showing players the pause menu would make them aware of it, especially the options (There was still one person who missed it), but I think you are right. It is probably not necessary for the tutorial.

The Fiend Slayer smugness level thingy when entering the dungeon would work better as a stepped slider than a row of radio buttons.
I found slider finicky when you just want to quickly switch to e.g. respect 4. It's one click, vs click and drag.
The dungeon button at the bottom sticks around when you're already on the dungeon screen and  when you click it it just takes you to the same screen but without the button.

I assume that happened when you closed the game when in on that screen and then loaded the save later. The button appears when your action points are 0, and I just don't check if you are already on that screen.

Crates

I have camera offset sliders in case you would like to see crates more in front of you when you land on them, which maybe would help.

They break momentum and that just isn't much fun.

I assume you mean they break momentum because you miss them. The momentum from bouncing and sprinting is better than just running.

When picking them up I found myself often just slightly out of range

Telekinesis range can be improved by both using Action cards, and using Blessing Seals (one of them is given to you after unlocking the Sealing Chamber). I guess you would still want me to increase the base range, huh?

Levers

Those should also be more visible, larger and more contrasting against the walls ideally.

Since levers outside of the tutorial mostly open shortcuts, them being more hidden and not visible is intentional.

Maybe have portal-style lines on the ground and walls.

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Talking about levers, just let me use left click to interact with them, same with milk. I don't see a reason to have left click to pick up stuff an E to interact separate inputs.
There are seals that have different interactions for those inputs, which is why for the sake of the sake of consistency interacting is with E for all objects and grabbing and throwing LMB.

Default Seals

I found myself soft-locked in the dungeon without any mana regeneration several times before I realized it's the mana regen -1 seal. I thought it would just slow it down, but there was just none. At least that one should not be default.
Every dungeon room can be beaten with no mana. I saw many testers wasting mana when they did not need to and then wait for it to regenerate in past DDs, I decided for the default Seals to make mana act more as ammunition to try make the point it is optional, and people shouldn't wait for it. I also wanted players to become more aware of crates.

I guess when it comes to height, my best tip is; crouch jump into ledge grab is as good as using mana for an air jump. The difference is you might not always have your hands free.

I think players also forget crouch landing on e.g. mushroom caps boost them more. Many far jumps are actually possible without mana thanks to lenient coyote time.

If you could tell me which room/part of the dungeon you think you got soft-locked that would be great.

Baby Steps++

It is not the first time I hear people getting filtered by that template, which is a shame because after that multiple different dungeon templates get unlocked. Do you think the difficulty spike is due to the room types that appear there, or the layout (it introduces just one side path between two heart rooms)?

How do you even lose money?


Getting hit by traps, lava, failing main objectives, and having more gold than your gold cap. Running out of time has the worst penalty, which is why going back to the entrance is much better, than risking completing everything when you know you don't have much time left. You click on the gold tab in summary after dungeon run to see the breakdown in more details.

just started a new save.

Oh? I think you explained your reasons pretty well, but I don't think that was a good idea. Action Cards allow you to improve your character, and you also unlock new seals, so I think sticking to one save would be more beneficial - you don't start a new save after a failed roguelite run, but you rely on gradually improving both in-game and out of it, no?

Oh yeah, make flower pots shatter when I throw them.

The main idea behind them is so you can place them anywhere to use them as "bread crumbs" for easier backtracking (probably not that apparent on early templates). There are also Blessings involving them.

I found slider finicky when you just want to quickly switch to e.g. respect 4. It's one click, vs click and drag.

I thought stepped sliders were clickable. Either way it's just a small cosmetic thing, the buttons work.

I assume you mean they break momentum because you miss them. The momentum from bouncing and sprinting is better than just running.

Well that and in order to not miss them I start looking down and adjusting my speed to make sure I do hit them. I'm never quite sure I'm gonna hit a crate when I just run and jump at it.

I guess you would still want me to increase the base range, huh?

I would. The way I see it the base gameplay should be extremely solid and modifiers like seals should be there to spice things up, not to make them bearable.

that gif

How? Let me guess, it's a seal? For this I guess I can see it. I was thinking in the opposite direction though, after pulling a lever I wanna see what it opened.

I guess when it comes to height, my best tip is; crouch jump into ledge grab is as good as using mana for an air jump. The difference is you might not always have your hands free.
If you could tell me which room/part of the dungeon you think you got soft-locked that would be great.

Yeah it was rooms with high walls that I couldn't get over. I had completely forgotten about the higher crouch jump. The game just throws so many mechanics at you at once.

Do you think the difficulty spike is due to the room types that appear there, or the layout (it introduces just one side path between two heart rooms)?

I'd say a bit of both. The biggest obstacle I found were the new large mirror rooms. Maybe just introduce larger dungeons and harder rooms separately.

Getting hit by traps, lava, failing main objectives, and having more gold than your gold cap. Running out of time has the worst penalty, which is why going back to the entrance is much better, than risking completing everything when you know you

I see. I think It would be better if you could only lose money that you collected in the current run though. Going into the dungeon to scrape together 25 gold so I can unlock the trait I need to get bunny girls only to see the gold counter go down every time I exit is just frustrating.

Maybe the game could also nudge you to buy beneficial things at the start. Remember, the main problem was that  I wasted it all on costumes lol

I would. The way I see it the base gameplay should be extremely solid and modifiers like seals should be there to spice things up, not to make them bearable.
I get what you mean. I want Seals and Meta progression to feel really good, but I guess the base range is too short. (I want end game for you to be able to grab a crate that is on the other side of a room).

How? Let me guess, it's a seal? For this I guess I can see it. I was thinking in the opposite direction though, after pulling a lever I wanna see what it opened.
Yeah, it is a seal. I see what you mean. I though at best I would be willing to pop up a text with "something has changed" ha ha.

Yeah it was rooms with high walls that I couldn't get over. I had completely forgotten about the higher crouch jump. The game just throws so many mechanics at you at once.
Yeah, crouch jumping is very important. I gotta do a better job at highlighting that.

I'd say a bit of both. The biggest obstacle I found were the new large mirror rooms.

Damn, I did not expect that answer. At this point the Baby Steps templates should be going to *10+. Most testers I saw play for one hour are still on Baby Steps+ or ++. I am not sure how I feel extending the "beginner" part of the game. There are so many different templates after players are done with Baby Steps templates, and hardly anyone gets to see them. Later on I want to introduce a sort of a "quest system", but that would mean it should show up after like 10 hours into the game... I want this to be a long game, but it raises a question of how long a game should take before it stops introducing new systems and the player stops feeling like a beginner.

I see. I think It would be better if you could only lose money that you collected in the current run though. Going into the dungeon to scrape together 25 gold so I can unlock the trait I need to get bunny girls only to see the gold counter go down every time I exit is just frustrating.
You can unlock a Treasury Visit Action Card by buying Mimic employee, which can be used to store gold inbetween runs, so you wouldn't risk losing it. Pretty much every small dungeon has more than 25 gold, so I thought it would not be a problem to unlock Bunny Girls (I lowered her price, but I guess it was still not enough).

Maybe the game could also nudge you to buy beneficial things at the start. Remember, the main problem was that  I wasted it all on costumes lol
Bunny Suit costume costs no Gold, so that was not the problem in your case. I tried to highlight the importance of unlocking female guests at first, because they are needed for Magic Mirror objectives. I think what I am going to do is lock some reception tabs, and unlock them gradually.