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Elect Thine Owne Emprise1 year ago(+4)(-11)

Without meaning to imply disagreement with the anti-DEI Note, I don't understand how it is relevant to the quiz? And unless it relates to the quiz, it just feels needlessly tacked on, pointlessly divisive and unnecessarily hostile.

It's like putting "ACAB" signs up in a donut shop: it has nothing to do with donuts and will not prevent ~~bastards~~ cops from buying donuts there ... People who agree, don't care, because they already agree; people who disagree, don't care, because they already disagree; and people who neither agree nor disagree, don't care, because it has nothing to do with donuts.

Kizzy Graves1 year ago(+13)(-4)

It's important because the creator of the original system this is based on is notoriously evil when it comes to trans individuals. So no I don't think its "irrelevant" for the creator of this quiz to mention they don't agree with their views.

Elect Thine Owne Emprise1 year ago (1 edit) (+3)(-13)

Oh but it is. Completely irrelevant. The disagreement did not prevent the creation of this derivative work, so then it is not going to prevent the use of this derivative work. The attempt to do so is hypocritical.

As I said, it feels needlessly tacked on, pointlessly divisive and unnecessarily hostile. It is against diversity of opinions, against equity and inclusion of people holding differing opinions. And as someone who also thinks JKR is a hypocrite, this just reads like a spoilt toddler throwing a tantrum - it reflects badly on all of us and is frankly quite embarrassing.

And all for what? What possible purpose does it serve? Those who agree don't need to hear it; those who disagree don't want to hear it; and nobody else cares beyond finding it pathetic and in bad taste. It's so mindlessly self-destructive.

Kizzy Graves1 year ago(+9)(-5)

It's not mindlessly self-destructive or divisive to show support for a minority group, if it bothers you so much then it's clear you're one of the freaks the creator of this is referring to and you're more than welcome to leave :)

Elect Thine Owne Emprise1 year ago(+2)(-12)

It is extreme self-destructive to needlessly tack on a pointlessly divisive and unnecessarily hostile anti-DEI note, telling TERFs to "fuck off" from a quiz derived from a TERF's IP. Worse still it is pointless, because it won't prevent them from playing the quiz anyway and only serves to embarrass those of us who aren't such bigoted freaks.

But the hateful coward who felt the need to create a second account just to double up on their down-votes and @ me is certainly welcome to stick their head back up their echo chamber, where it is safe to persecute everyone who is different that they are 😏

Kizzy Graves1 year ago(+8)(-3)

"Saying that black women are women is a divisive comment and serves no purpose, it just serves to exclude diversity and create unnecessary hostility" do you hear how insane that sounds??? that's what you just said.

Elect Thine Owne Emprise1 year ago(+2)(-10)

Nice straw man, but no that is not all what I said.

Rather I said, telling TERFs to "fuck off" from a quiz based on the IP of a TERF, feels needlessly tacked on, pointlessly divisive and unnecessarily hostile, and is exclusionary, inequitable and anti-diversity, not to mention hypocritical, embarrassing and mindlessly self-destructive.

It's like the freaks who attack bookstores for selling Harry Potter, harass streamers for playing Hogwarts Legacy and send JKR death-threats. If you would care to step out of your little echo-chamber for a second, you will notice that the overwhelming majority of people disagrees with JKR but is driven away by this hateful and violent misbehavior. It is extremely counter-productive and self-destructive.

Kizzy Graves1 year ago(+5)(-4)

What I said was an analogy, a straw man would have been if I had said " Oh so now you're saying it's self destructive to show support to any minority group???" if you're going to randomly say [insert fallacy here] you should at least be aware of what they mean bruv. Also I only have this one account, people just don't agree with you as evidenced by your original post T-T

Elect Thine Owne Emprise1 year ago(+1)(-9)

So you don't even understand how analogies and straw men work. Why am I not surprised. You've demonstrated all the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of a toddler so far...

Within the space of a few minutes: first down vote on OP, time of creation of your account, second down vote, your first barrage of BS. But sure, you only have one account and everyone else is just as much of a bigoted freak as you... 😂 Keep telling yourself that, it will make the transition out of infancy so much smoother for you - should you ever achieve it, that is.

Meammachine1 year ago(+6)(-3)

Your veneer of caring for trans people quickly falls away when you vehemently attack anti-TERF messages.

You spout so much emotionally-charged language in defence of these TERFs with little reason or explanation for it. Just repetitions of how "damaging", "self-destructive", or "violent" it is.

Last I checked, the violence was being wielded by the hate groups attacking trans people, not the victims telling haters to fuck off - but carry on victim blaming to protect your own fragile conscience.

Ethical movements NEED to be strong and stern to make progress. We look back romantically at the fight for racial and gender equity, but if you look at the actions of the suffragettes, for example, you should understand that radical pushback was critical to the success of the movement, even if extremely unpopular at the time.

Tit for tat. Fight back. Don't be a pushover. What you're fighting for is for trans-positive groups to be pushovers. Fuck that rhetoric. If you hate trans people, go fuck yourself.

Elect Thine Owne Emprise1 year ago(+1)(-5)

Look at you spouting emotionally-charged language without any reason or argument... What hypocrisy.

You are every bit as bad as the hypocritical TERFs you hate so much and commit violence against. And you think you constitute an ethical "movement"? You?! Look at you 🤣 You are nothing but a pathetic terrorist, as were the suffragettes you worship.

Elect Thine Owne Emprise1 year ago(+2)(-5)

You do not represent trans people. You are not doing trans people any favors with your hatred and violence. You are just a pathetic little wannabe terrorist looking for an excuse to act out your fascist fantasies at the expense of trans people. It disgusting.

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