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Hi, since updating to macOS 14.2 it seems that the input gain running in desktop audio mode has somehow changed? (noticed in both v0.8.14 and 15).

For example: Playing audio files that peak at 0dB (and can confirm from the meters on my interface that these are indeed at 0dB) would usually display on the minimeters waveform meter "maxed out" filling the whole window, for lack of a better term. But since the 14.2 update it seems closer to -14dB (this goes for the readouts on all the modules, not just waveform).

I tried messing with the settings a bit and removing and re-adding minimeters to the desktop recording permissions, but no luck.

Not sure if it's an OS thing, or something that I can troubleshoot further?

Direct1 year ago

Thank you for pointing this out. I just had someone check this for me and they are seeing the issue as well. Something changed on Apple’s side. I’m going to update my development machine and try to find a workaround for this issue. Sorry for the inconvenience.

DDTK1 year ago

No worries, I’m happy to help out further if needed.

It’s always frustrating when something like that changes out of the blue and you then have to spend time and resources playing catch up.

I wonder if there’s some sort of way to implement a gain stage in the app before the signal hits the meters? So in settings you could manually set the amplitude, if desired.

Direct1 year ago

I will add the trim setting very soon. I don't really recommend this, but at the moment you can sort of hack your way to doing that by opening the settings file at "~/Library/Preferences/MiniMeters/settings.json" and adding or changing the line that says "trim": 0 to the decibel value you'd like to gain the signal by. The modified audio section should look like this:

"audio": {
         "buffer_size": 4096,
         "channel_left": 0,
         "channel_right": 1,
         "device": "Desktop Audio",
         "trim": 0
     },

DDTK1 year ago

I might play around with that when I have some downtime, thanks!

If I make a copy of the unaltered .json file, and put that back before updating to the new version (when released) it should technically revert the settings to default, without potentially messing something up in the future install, right?

Direct1 year ago

Yeah you can back up the settings file! Also, unfortunately, I just updated my development machine to 14.2 and am seeing the issue only when using an external audio device. If it's not too much trouble, could you let me know what audio interface you're using on your primary machine? I am going to have to make a report for this to submit to Apple.

DDTK1 year ago

Of course. I’m using an Apogee Symphony Desktop on my primary machine

Direct1 year ago

Thank you! I am reporting this to Apple with some others experiences. I am implementing a Trim adjustment in the settings to address this in the next update (0.8.16). You can expect this within the next few days.

DDTK1 year ago

Really appreciate all the effort and bringing these fixes so quickly!

Regarding the not really recommended editing of the settings file: I had some time and wanted to mess around with it a bit, sadly no luck over here. Any changes resulted in Minimeters immediately crashing upon opening, I see why it wasn't recommended haha. No worries though, I can hold out till the update arrives. Also replacing the settings file with the original backup and then restarting solved the crashing.

Direct1 year ago(+1)

My assumption is you have a trailing comma, but no worries. If you can wait a couple days I will have that update out.

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