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ok I will say this to help as I also have not done the secret ending but when i was testing and trying for many hours i came up with a strategy as i accidently lost on like day 2-3 dont remember which and not with lily i am not sure how the events are after but it is possible to lose by lily on day 3 if i am correct and if you use the right items after that just go ham and try to get everyone as fast as possible also make sure to on the first day get rid of the red haired one aka use the meal

 the blue haired one requires a necklace give the armor lotion (cant remember the name of the oil but it is type of oil) and if i am correct that was as far as i got on that i do have the feeling you also have to use a herb on the first day in someone's room hope this helps you

 (also the strategy to lose to lily on on the third or second day is when you see lily in the dining room eat all the bread as each time you eat it for some reason it raises suspicion)

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Well, the issue with all of this is that dialogue options (and not talking with them ) influences Fear and Suspicion. Apparently staying up late also influences Suspicion.

I will ask if you do somehow get Lily to leave due to fear, take note of which dialogue options you took with her, what you did in front of her, and how often you stayed up. With that, I should be able to theoretically figure out the rest.

I tried my usual stuff with the cast and eating all the bread, I still lose Lily at the end due to fear, no matter what I do.

ROUTE SPOILER.
*Be sure to always talk to each character at least once.

>D1

Morn: Rite. Oil. Bitter
Day: Enter ALICE's room.
Night: Berries on ALICE.

>D2
Morn: Keys. Lotion. Wine.
Day: Incense.
Night: Eat all the Bread.

>D3
Morn: Place Rite.
Day: Nothing.
Night: Oil JUDIE. Watch SARAH read the scrolls.

>D4
Morn: Necklace. Plant Necklace.
Day: Nothing
Night: Lotion MINERVA. (Incense LILY for regular win.)

>D5
Morn: Lotion KATHERINE.
Day: Nothing.
Night: Nothing.

>D6

Regular Win if LILY was incense'd, otherwise Fear Loss.

ah i c what is happening i think i also try to talk to lily every day but i try to make it in how i see her as a friend and i am willing to take note of the options again once i get into trying to do the secret ending and once i do ill make a list  also expect me to try in a bout 1 month

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Thank you for the details on this route! It helped me immensely in figuring out the rest! 😁

Before I reveal my solution for the True Ending, I would like to state that yes, I enjoyed this enough to explore numerous options and post on a year-old thread about this... 🤣 Also, I did attempt your route here exactly as stated, and with several different slight variations such as you implied/suggested -- e.g. use the clock at night more often, pickup Rite of Devotion on Morning 2 instead of Morning 1, since LILY is in the library then -- and still ran into the same exact result as you described when the game moves to Day 6. 🤔

I am quite certain that one of the keys is NOT obtaining the Hallowed Incense -- OR using it where possible prior to Night 4 -- since I was able to achieve the True Ending without even talking to LILY until she is standing in front of the crystal ball at that time. Talking to KATHERINE every single day is also paramount with your proposed route, since she will not provide any indication in her dialogue that she is "coming around" until Day 5. 😅

I will now outline the exact actions I performed on each day below. It is fairly optimized -- for those of you who've gotta go fast 😉 -- but I believe you can engage in almost any conversation that doesn't involve using items during this route and still achieve the same result, as long as you at least perform all listed actions at the listed times. Here goes!

*ROUTE SPOILER*

Morning 1:

- Head to Kitchen and collect Bitter Herb (in LILY's sole presence, her position can be a real run-killer here 🤣 but you really need her suspicion!)

- Head to Library and collect Rite of Devotion

- Head to Storage Room and collect Sanctified Oil (KATHERINE and SARAH are here, but they won't become suspicious enough to interfere later)

- Talk to KATHERINE here in the Storage Room

- Head to Upstairs Hallway and use the Clock


Day 1:

- Enter ALICE's Room (in LILY's sole presence)

- Return to Upstairs Hallway and use the Clock


Night 1:

- While preparing dinner, collect the Divine Fruits

- Add them to ALICE's plate

- After dinner, go to Sleep


Morning 2:

- Exit your Bedroom to see what happened

- Head to Storage Room (new bedroom) and collect Ornate Key and Plain Iron Key (Bonus points if you beat MINERVA inside! 🤣)

- Return to Upstairs Hallway and use the Clock


Day 2:

- Head to Foyer (downstairs) and talk to KATHERINE

- Open the Cellar here in the Foyer (using Plain Iron Key)

- Collect Consecrated Belly Lotion x1

- Return to Upstairs Hallway and use the Clock


Night 2:

- Head to Storage Room and go to Sleep


Morning 3:

- Head to Library and insert Rite of Devotion among the scrolls (MINERVA is here, but she won't become suspicious enough to interfere later)

- Head to Parlor and use the Clock


Day 3:

- Talk to KATHERINE here in Parlor

- Use the Clock again


Night 3:

- Head to Library and watch SARAH read the Rite of Wisdom (you only need to see her turn to face the scrolls on the table)

- Head to Storage Room and talk to JUDIE

- Give JUDIE the Sanctified Oil (this will require talking to her again if you haven't already done so today)

- Go to Sleep here in Storage Room

! Resist any urge to investigate who has left the room and go right back to Sleep


Morning 4:

- Head to Parlor and open the jewelry box (using Ornate Key)

- Take the Blessed Necklace from the jewelry box

- Head to Storage Room and place the Blessed Necklace on MINERVA'S dresser (in LILY's sole presence)

- Return to Upstairs Hallway and use the Clock


Day 4:

- Use the Clock again


Night 4:

- Talk to KATHERINE here in Upstairs Hallway

- Head to Bathroom and talk to MINERVA

- Offer MINERVA some Consecrated Belly Lotion (this will require talking to her again if you haven't already done so today)

- Head to Games Room and talk to LILY

! When LILY asks if you believe in magic, answer Yes (this will require talking to her again if you haven't already done so today)

- Head to Storage Room and go to Sleep

>> At this point, LILY should come to pose your involvement with recent happenings in the Storage Room

>> Also, it appears the scene with KATHERINE watching MINERVA walk out of the Storage Room plays without the game re-drawing the screen, i.e. the player character and KATHERINE react/speak, but the room appears to be empty.


Morning 5:

- Enter the Temple (beneath Foyer staircase) and collect the Consecrated Belly Lotion x2

- Return to Foyer and Talk to KATHERINE

! Offer KATHERINE some Consecrated Belly Lotion (this will require talking to her again if you haven't already done so today, and you only get ONE prompt, so don't accidentally skip it! 😨)

- Head to LILY's Room (upstairs) and enter to confront her

- Talk to LILY and answer Yes, you've been performing the ritual

- Return to Upstairs Hallway and use the Clock


Day 5:

- Use the Clock again


Night 5:

- Head to Storage Room and go to Sleep

>> At this point, an additional scene with LILY will play in the Storage Room and the True Ending unfolds when you enter the Temple.

Once again, a fantastic game! I am thoroughly convinced there are MANY more solutions than mine based on the different avenues for each ritual item and activities each guest is performing at any given time! 😁