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omg thank you for that (i finally got it!)

tho i somehow killed 2 guards and 2 citizens this time (oops) - tried all options of security yet i still coudnt save them (what ? do i have NO security ? thats ridiculous) 

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I think that's because you toldthe nobles. You are warned that it is a sign of weakness meaning they likely got some assassins? I haven't ever played this way.