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So I was really looking forward to playing this game, the art is gorgeous, Heath and Markus made my heart THROB. The MC customization was great, I loved the diverse dialogue choices (it felt like MC really did have personality), my head was going through so many things I wanted to do because this game had 21 FUC**** ENDINGS and I was thinking, no way I can fail with that MANY endings. Also, I saw the game had a required budget of 8K, but the support was almost double than that as it went to 15K! I was just like, this game must be very good!

//SPOILERS HEATH ROUTE

So I wanted to try Heath first and then Markus, because he was so different, and very charming and...lonely. I played as Mavvar but still picked him as mentor to make it exciting. For the first 5-8-10 hours (????!) I was just so happy, with the humor, art, characters until it just went downhill when I realized that Heath was jealous/hate(both??) of my MC and he was an addict (I just thought, that's normal cause he's former Movie star and I can still fix him after I asked him to drop the cigarette), the sex scene allows you to top/bottom (my MC is male) but i felt so sad, it felt so hollow, toxic, it didnt feel like love at all. Like, is this game ENCOURAGING DRUGS??? Hell, that was the first straw, and I already felt like the game was going downhill from there and I felt GENUINELY DEPRESSED It felt like all my choices are just mistakes in the making. Next, when Heath went to Andrei, I felt betrayed by him or Saorise (I KNOW that B**** Andrei just wants to make humans his cattle) and rejected his offer. By then my gaming morale was so low but I was still hoping for any hints of a good ending. So I continued played until midnight and after returning to Saorise, I no longer had any OPTIONS AT ALL. I DIE NO MATTER WHAT AFTER ANNOUNCING THAT THE NEUTRAL GROUND BELONGS TO ISCARI-tried others I still die! I put down my laptop and sulked.

CONCLUSIONS:

I am an overall very happy person but after THIS, (its been a while since Ive been sad) my mind cycled over one sentence for the next 3 hours: WHAT DID I DO WRONG? I felt like I was a mistake and a failure. It felt like I genuinely went though a horrible break-up, I felt Iike I couldn't do anything right, I felt like a toy passed around. Some choices also didnt make sense, I made a deal with Lazarus, but he never came to aid me nor did he many any attempts againts Andrei.

I was hoping maybe the game was incomplete somehow? And that's how I came to this comment section and created a new account. Now, I don't wanna try Markus route anymore in fear of facing that same horrible feeling. In the end, the game made me hollow, like the characters, no smile on my face, it just HURTS me and I emphasize with those who have gone through depression, this game made me feel their pain. It seems no amount of being good/kind would work for these broken people.

QUESTION:

To those who played the game way more than I did (I just finished it a few hours ago but Im very unwilling to go for another wild depressing roller coaster), are there any partial forms of good endings with Heath and Markus? Any at all? Are they worth it? Please help, I dont care if I have to refer to a guide anymore. I just want to know huhuhu

Cis5 years ago(+7)(-1)

Short answer: No, no happy endings, with the possible exception of Markus' special ending. But you stay alive in most endings.

Long answer: If you get shot, it means that you choose a faction that doesn't like/trust you enough to save you. If you made a deal with Lazarus, he will indeed aid you, but not at this point, but rather in the final battle. (He also will go after Andrei and might even succeed onscreen, depending on you choices.) If you have enough influence with the faction of your choice, you will be saved by that faction and you will make it through the story alive. As for the mentors, there are no ways to "fix" Heath or Randal or even just keeping them from getting worse, though there are endings where they stay with you. Markus' endings are not quite that gloomy, though I found them still pretty depressing, with the exception of his special ending, as already mentioned.

PS: I definitely didn't feel like the game endorses drugs, quite the opposite. That Heath tries to escape from reality and numbs himself is actually his fatal flaw. Mind you, you don't have to sleep with him, and you can also just pretend to take the drugs, if you don't mind deceiving him.

Flamlng05 years ago

Thanks for the reply! Yeah in the sex scene, I went back and just chose sit with Heath in the alley haha, f cold sex man haha. Thank you for the tips! So my mistake was actually believing what Heath said in the beginning, that peace was possible (naive of me xD) so I just equally divided my attention among all three but I guess this game doesn't allow it. I will replay the game then and will follow your advice ^ω^

Okay I have just this last question left (maybe Ill have more when I find the time to replay):

Do I have to be in the same house as my mentor in order to get the best route? Because I read in previous comments that you need to be Golgotha and get the visions to get best Markus route? >_<

Cis5 years ago(+2)(-1)

You actually can go independent and sort of unite the houses, but it's pretty iffy. You not only need a high reputation with all factions, but you also have to bring up the topic with the Iscari and Randal before you declare your alliance. If done right, you can pick "My rebellion!" and Randal and his group will save you, though there will still be a fight because Saorise and Andrei will not give up that easily. So it basically plays out like siding with the Mavvar, only that at the end you are in charge with Randal as your right hand instead of the other way around, and the remaining vampires in the city are more diverse instead of consisting mostly of Mavvar. So, yes, you can bring the three houses together, but not peacefully. There will always be a final clash and Saorise and Andrei will never accept you.

As for your question, you have to be in the same house as your mentor to get the special endings. Those are not necessarily the best endings, mind you. I found Randal's special ending horrifying and Heath's was a tragedy. Only Markus' special ending has an uplifting note. Mind you, you have to get the former two before you can unlock Markus' special ending (which I consider the "true" ending, btw).

Goldenrose5 years ago

If it's alright, can you give me some more pointers in how to get the leader ending? I am on Randall's path and I had high rep points with all houses (wasn't equally high but they were close enough) and I did tell Randal, the Iscari, and that Mavvar guy that I will unite LA but for some reasons, the "My rebellion" option has never came up. Did you perhaps maxed out determination and if so, how? Or maybe I'm not supposed to agree to Andrei's deal, I don't know. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong and it's getting tiring to go through his route over and over again just to get the leader ending. (Since I've already got all of Randall's other endings, including the special ending)

Cis5 years ago(+1)(-1)

I would love to help you, but I'm not sure where you went "wrong" either. If you used the options to talk about it beforehand and have sufficient reputation with the factions, then I'm stumped as to what could be missing. But the deal with Andrei shouldn't be the issue, since I took that too. As for the personality traits, I'm not sure how they factor in, but since I played my Iscari as somebody who can take care of herself and isn't easily daunted, my character turned out indeed pretty determined, though the stat wasn't maxed. (Here are my exact stats at the moment of the proclamation oy my rebellion, in case anyone wants to take a closer look: https://imgur.com/zWpqiir) I wish I could be more of a help, but maybe someone else knows more?

That aside, are you trying to get Randal's second ending? Just asking, because I tried the very same thing, only to find out that it isn't linked to that at all. There seems to be only one ending for the rebellion, whether you side with Randal or go on to unite LA, and it even plays out mostly the same, with only minor differences in the epilogue. Spoilers ahead, for those who want to know: For the second ending, you have to side instead with Andrei, while also making a deal with Lazarus. At the end, you will notice Lazarus sneaking up on Andrei, just let him do his stuff.

The_Nuggening5 years ago(+6)

I just got Randal's secret ending last night and dear god, you're right. It's terrifying. I saw your post before I ever unlocked it but I was expecting Randal to go on a killing spree or something. I did not expect... well, *that*. It made it hard to sleep, man, damn.

Cis5 years ago(+4)(-1)

Tell me about it. Randal's beardless face will haunt my bad dreams forever!

The_Nuggening5 years ago(+4)

I hate to say this but I thought he looked kinda hott without the beard... Then my heart broke when he gave me that scornful look

Cis5 years ago(+4)(-1)

You are right, he DOES look hot without the beard. Actually, I've thought "I wonder how he looks without the beard" for most part of the game. It's just that when you finally see it, well.... let's just say by that time I wanted my bearded teddybear in casual clothes back. *whimper*

The_Nuggening5 years ago

Yasss! I was thinking my whole time playing through the vanilla ending that he was just a big ol' teddybear. I felt so fuzzy with him before.

Flamlng05 years ago (2 edits)

Thanks a lot for the tips, I guess I did it wrong because my stats were high that I was being rumored to side with the Rebellion but I was afraid to pick any forms of "rebellion" options after Heath said they would target him first and I didnt want him to die. Let me see if I can still recover my Mavaar MC and Heath relationship :( (i like contrasting lovers so haha)

I wont try Randal's ending if its really thay disturbing xD

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