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Mr.Broflovski

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大陆读者,希望不要有太多简繁用语差异导致作者看不懂的地方→_→

首先为Amor点一首《小幸运》,虽然我没有“忘记是谁风里雨里一直默默守护在原地”,但Chris这样的大哥型角色完全正中我的好球区,好想把头埋进Chris的胸毛里狠狠地吸,他摆出那个破碎表情时想一把抱住他,摸摸他的头告诉他已经做的很好了www(发癫)

咳咳,接下来是比较正经的内容。声明:以下内容可能涉及剧透,请确保已经阅读了截止v6.5为止的大部分内容再点开



主要是针对Chris和谁组队这个关键选择,整体上我很喜欢这里的两难困境,概括来说是经典的“感性——理性”冲突,唯一一个比较微妙的点在于Chris的动机在我看来没有那么强的说服力,他当然可以很固执地认定初狩一定要和Hess共享这份荣耀,但问题在于初狩这件事对于Hess本身来说其实并不那么重要,也就是说Chris的出发点稍微就有点过于自我了,在此基础之上将这件事上升到“信任/抛弃”也会让我觉得“大可不必”;虽然这不至于影响他总体上成熟可靠的老大哥形象,但在这件事关乎Chris本人的安危时,Chris出于“分享荣耀”的执念难免会在感性(正当性)和理性上都被Hess出于为对方安危的考虑压了一头。

结合后面的剧情我其实想到这样一种可能性,那就是Hess的特殊体质提前暴露了——例如在Ostrom带主角团出来野餐的时候,或者Chris明确知道了围绕Hess不怀好意的关注(目前故事里初狩之前Chris绝大部分时候泡在训练室里,反而对Hess的情况、做了什么一无所知)。我个人猜测在Chris事件阶段性地结束之后Hess会因为自身的特殊体质再次被卷入这场关乎人魔未来的争端,甚至会更接近争端中心,那么回到这里Chris初狩一定要带上Hess的目的就可以不只是为了证明自己并在家族站稳脚跟,还包含了未雨绸缪,向外界展示自身和主角之间的紧密关系、提升主角曝光度来警告对主角虎视眈眈的其它魔物。这样写的话对于我来说双方的动机会更对等一些,也强化了“都是为对方好但结果却互相伤害”的基调。

不过以上是我看6.5之前的想法,看了6.5更新内容之后我大概能感觉到这种写法或许和现在的故事结构并不怎么兼容,而且很大程度上也是我的个人偏好,姑且还是写了下来,如果能给作者提供一些新的视角自然最好。


然后是一点分支设计上的想法,这个存档里前面的选项我都是偏向于更多和Chris交互,但被Amor“趁虚而入”之后我好像没得选?问题在于让Amor和Chris组队是我发自真心的选择(或许还有其它关键选项?),如果在Amor反问“你不喜欢我吗”之后有一个沉默的选项然后能衔接到Chris线会不会更自然一些(何况这样也能看到Amor终究棋差一招之后,两个人相对无言却又心照不宣的究极尴尬场景,这本身就足够让本扭曲怪原地升天)。当然,不排除这里本身也是Chris故事线的一部分——nah,虽然我前面说“选择拒绝一个人来进入另一个角色线”是我喜闻乐见的,但从反逻辑来看“主角选择和Chris组队”无疑是最“正统”的Chris线分支选择,那另一条分支自然属于Amor,只不过“主角选择让Chris和Amor组队”在我看来没有那么强烈地指向“主角选择了Amor”的结果。

这里说到底是玩家和角色行为逻辑之间几乎必然存在的错位,所以我与其说提出一种解决方案不如说只是单纯发表看法,像上面提到的剧情想法一样,能给作者提供更多可能性足矣。


最后,感谢作者的辛苦付出带来这么精彩的故事,我非常期待后续的故事展开,有机会的话我也会继续支持作者大大哒~

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Just some feedback on a minor UI issue.

So, I was trying to transfer my saves from computer to my phone and ended up only finding the "download sync" button. Then I look into the screen.rpy file and find out that the "upload sync" button only appears in a save screen, which seems kinda unnecessary to me. Like, you could totally just enter the load screen from the main title just to upload your saves. Maybe always showing both buttons could be better?

Though it seems renpy's sync isn't currently functioning anyway(some error occured in the 00sync.rpy file from the renpy folder). Actually I've never used(or even seen) this "sync" function of renpy from my experience of any other FVNs, so maybe this is kinda the reason?

As usual, some blank for spoilers (well, should these even count?)








That's hardly what I meant, to be honest. I have no idea how you comprehend my words but meh.

So at the very first beginning, this is just some sort of plot outlines, rather than the whole scene. You could have some more reasonable story goings but it's not like I'm actually writing a fan-story, not here at least.

And I have never said the denotation should be done by "Dave charge at Mephis". If the remote denotator is working, then that is just the easiest way. They can hide somewhere safe enough and denotate it from distance when Mephis is close enough. If the remote denotator is not working, then Benson still have the gun! Why not trying to denotate it by shooting them? Again, these are just possible solutions. Chances are that Mephis could also have some backup measures.

(PS: While Google says C4 can withstand a rifle shot, I think it's not that much a problem. Like, hardly anybody would question about such  scientific problems in these stories. )

I don't know how you get the "kamikaze idea", but yeah, I also agree that's pretty stupid and absurd.

This idea came to me because, across every storyline (at least for those which I've played), this F storyline seems to be most likely for them to have a bite back on Mephis, which neither negotiation or some police force will do. And those bombs being simply disamred seems kind of wasted to me. Thanatos have all past memories! If keeping Dave alive is one important task for him, why not utilizing him to the most? You can know how many bombs there are (though he could be lying). You can know which direction Mephis will come to the house. You can even know whether you've tried this plan and how it turns out.

Route F spoiler but I guess if you haven't play that part this won't give you much clue.









Though it may sound kind of aggressive, isn't this some chance (you could say only chance) we possibly kill Mephis by using the c4 given the lethality of those bombs is enough. You could put them somewhere near the door(most likely the front door), or even with the bodies of Jack and Dominic which will probably attract Mephis' attention if able to make him come closer.

The detonation could be a problem though. If the ECM jammer is still working, guess the detonator won't work well. Benson could shoot the bomb though, much easier than shooting Mephis. But, yeah, we know what happened in day 22 which was also suspicious.

It seems off as something that Dave would decide on. But in "some" storyline, Dave could actually get driven by the thoughts of revenge (for all these danger and death of him, his friends and most importantly, his dad), let alone there already exists such example when Dave did "kill" someone in revenge. So such story development seems resonable, to me at least.

Even at the very least, I think throwing the bombs away is much safer than trying to disarm them. But now that Thanatos can ensure the security this won't be much a problem.

Still, just some if-storylines which I would definitely try. Or maybe I just want to see more "dark sides" of Dave. There are many mysteries that I want to find answers, looking forward to what could happen in the future. Thanks for your work, Grizz!