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(Appreciate it. People can't handle being called out, clearly... like that poster below, Totervogel, who blocked me before I could even respond to any of his/her 6 posts. Lol. Just proving my point; yet another perfect example of a coward who can't handle push back. Gonna just cut and paste here what I originally typed out, then. I have no patience for this nonsense.)

I thought about not responding, but here, I'll humour you. But... wow, 6 posts from you? Really? You realise you could have put everything in one comment, right? Or was that too difficult for you?

1) I don't think you understand what the word "bait" is. The person (whom I had never interacted with previously) made one post, and when I tried to respond months later, well, turns out I was already blocked. That smells of someone with low self-esteem who can't handle any sort of push back and can't actually support what they say, which is pathetic. I was blunt in all my posts and calling out nonsense (hardly "toxic;" that word gets thrown around so often without any understanding of the word itself), and I won't apologise for it. Deal with it.

2) I said "clown world"; I did not call the poster a clown. You need to work on your reading comprehension. If I'm "rude and foul" according to you, I'm guessing you've never encountered people who actually are those things? Gotta say, you're in for a rude awakening when you finally do, kiddo. Calling people "whiners" is hardly the worst thing a person can say. Grow up. 

As for the "grow up" comment directed at me, honey... I'm not the one demanding that a single word in a visual novel be changed, or going on about "cultural sensitivity", or demanding the world be covered in bubble wrap for my sake; that's a very specific group of vocal whiners doing that these days in the western world. I have more important things to worry about, like paying bills.

3) Look up "anti-white hate" on youtube and tons of results will pop up. Your ignorance of reality is not my problem. Also, gotta love how you ignored me saying "asian hate", too. While you're at it, look up "anti-asian hate"; plenty of results there, as well, but I doubt you'll look up either of those things. People such as yourself (and the original poster) don't really like having your view of the world challenged, so I'm not expecting much. 

Oh, and before you (or anyone else) brings it up... I'm not on the right OR the left. I find both sides equally annoying most of the time, and there are people of every race out there who echo my sentiments. Step out of your little bubble and actually take a look for a change. Here, I'll even give you an example of one such person: Amir Odom. Look him up on youtube.

I did, actually, but sure, ignore it. Here, I'll say the same thing again in a different way, just for you: it was a pointless change and achieves nothing except making some virtue-signaling keyboard activists (whiners) pat themselves on the back because they made someone on the internet remove a single word in a visual novel—someones' (their) knickers might get in a twist otherwise! Oh no! These mighty internet warriors, these saviors, fighting on behalf of the poor, poor poc. I'm sure everyone out their with actual problems really appreciate it. /s (if it wasn't obvious)

This sort of thing has been happening daily, on much larger scales in the west, with far more important things than a visual novel. So, do you understand? Is it clicking for you yet? Hope so, because I've already spent one minute too many on this circus, so have fun, I guess.

Don't know how I only noticed this months later, but anyway... posting this here since Itch won't let me respond to that Echo user below. If Itch allows people to block others, and then you can't respond to them... bruh. How pathetic is it to block someone because you can't handle them disagreeing with you on the internet? Doubt she or he will see this, but w/e.

1: I never mentioned anything about Christianity, but another poster did, so maybe actually check who you're responding to before hitting that "post reply" button, honey. Also, I'm an atheist, so it's all nonsense to me—get over it.

2: "Our" culture? Oh, please. Even if you are NA, YOU do not speak for everyone who is, full stop, and plenty who are do not share your backwards views. Furthermore, no culture is "closed", so what are you even on about? No-one gets to talk about any culture, ever, except those who are supposedly a part of it? Miss me with that (actual) regressive nonsense. Sharing stories, food, clothing, etc., across cultures can enrich society as a whole, but here you are, endorsing staying in an isolated little bubble. Brilliant.

3: Speaking of "curses" like they're actually real IS superstitious nonsense, honey, and blindly following the words of some hyper sensitive, virtue-signalling person on a discord server claiming using the word WENDIGO (again, a creature from NA folklore) is honestly sad. It's people like you that are making society as a whole worse. Step out of your regressive echo chamber and grow up.

Funny... that whiner down below responded to me as if I was the one who mentioned Christianity, but it was you. I love it when people just keyboard mash and don't bother to check who they're responding to... Itch won't even let me reply to it, either. lol

Anyway, this is just another case of virtue signaling nonsense. Pretty common, unfortunately.

A friendship path would be nice since they're so rare to see.

Oh, please. Going with the "hill you want to die on" bit? Really, now? How about this: the vast majority of poc don't buy into this censor every little thing nonsense, and are speaking out on it more and more, particularly when nothing was ever offensive to begin with. Step out of the echo chamber and actually see what people are saying about how harmful this gibberish is (hello, CRT); how patronizing and infantilizing treating poc (or any group really, not to mention the anti-white and asian hate) this way is, as if they're all brainless, spineless children that require treatment with kid gloves. Do some self-reflection and Knock it off.

EDIT: Treating superstitious nonsense this way isn't "dismissive", it's living in reality. Get over it.

Oh, for goodness sake... You did nothing wrong, and it sounds like someone tried (and succeeded) in convincing you it's the equivalent of the n word or something. It is not, and the word WENDIGO is not a "cursed" word; that's a load of superstitious nonsense. A wendigo is a creature from Native American folk lore, period, full stop. If we can't even speak about FOLK LORE, of all things, this is truly a clown world and I am SO tired of it.

It's your game so you can ultimately do what you want, but I don't think you should ever allow others to guilt trip you or brainwash you into thinking you committed some crime when you did nothing of the sort.

I'll start this off by saying social media in general is - to be perfectly blunt - a shitfest. There's some decent stuff on there but it's buried beneath so much garbage it's rarely worth digging through. "Trigger Warning" is so damn overused that its true definition has been lost at this point. It originally was meant for people who suffer from PTSD, but like most things it got high jacked by disingenuous morons and now means "whatever I don't like/don't agree with." I'm so sick of it. Toss it all in the bin along with the assholes self-diagnosing+faking mental disorders "because uwu so quirky" and be done with it. The slut-shaming doesn't surprise me either, as hypocrisy is a running theme with these same people.

... That sounded really aggressive. Can you tell I am already so done with this decade along with the last one? Lol. Anyway ~

You probably don't remember me (I lurk and rarely ever post), but I've been a part of your patreon for many months before and after release. I mentioned before that I consider Degraman first and foremost part of the horror genre (horror visual novels aimed at women are so underserved! We need more), as it has all the markings of a horror VN, not all horror is gore based, and this VN was never going to be all sunshine and puppies. Can you possibly add the "horror" tag on the game page? Might help a bit towards people shrieking about "triggers" etc., so when they whine you can point out the "horror" tag. I doubt it would fix everything, but it would help towards the whiners looking foolish for still jumping into something they didn't like to begin with. Although... they did it anyway even though you listed trigger warnings... right on the store page... ugh. People are idiots.

Regarding the overall VN itself : I liked it well enough, but I wanted some more world building, particularly on the Altids. Sorry if I spelled that wrong; can't remember it(typing this on a phone as my computer died and I'm waiting for a package with my new power supply... the package is past delivery date... lol). If I had to level further critique however, I will say the VN could have done with another run by an editor, as some of the sentence structure, etc., is a bit awkward in English. As this is a product available for purchase a certain level of polish is expected, but since this is your first VN and English isn't your mother tongue, I can forgive it. I'd still buy another VN from you guys :p. more horror and Victor route plzplzplz

This disjointed rambling has gone on long enough. Finishing this off by saying I'm glad to hear you're feeling better and I hope things go well for you. Just remember: make the game you want to make first and foremost, as you've found out the hard way how mentally draining it is to try to accomodate the demands of (extremely vocal) whiners. It's just not worth your mental health, and they'd never be happy with the VN since it sounds like they were never your primary demographic to begin with - they just wanted to bitch at something. Not everything is going to appeal to everyone, nor should it. It really baffles me how many people can't (or don't want to) understand that....

Edit: Hours later and I realise I put "Vincent" instead of "Victor". Good job, brain!

Few days late, but yeah... pretty much. It's an annoying double standard I'm really tired of. I love horror games, but horror (even just... horrorish) visual novels like this aimed at women (non-yoai) are practically nonexistant. It really is a shame, as I'd love to see more of them but apparently that's unacceptable. :/

So... I don't really know where to put this, but-
Despite not lying to Sora+Vlad, when I get to the first Deletion Game choice, when choosing a certain option, the game behaves as if I had lied, and the only other options are to come clean or keep lying. I bought the game here, so maybe this bug was fixed in the steam version, but wasn't for the itch version?

Ah, this is unfortunate. : /

Don't really have anything to add that hasn't been said by others already (very good points, too), so I'll just chime in by adding my support for a possible kickstarter. I've been burned by them in the past so I'm wary of backing any; however, given you've released a few VNs already (bought and enjoyed them!), I'd be willing to  toss some money your way. The premise for BFF is different enough from the usual setting for me to give it a chance, despite it being years since I was in high school.

...  Also, just saying, but I would absolutely  give money to a TToW kickstarter if you happen to go that route. More Leopold, please!