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A topic by ww2_weasel created Aug 19, 2020 Views: 412 Replies: 8

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ww2_weasel4 years ago (3 edits)

Any folks out there with C## skills that might want to contribute to a new AI?

It really will take a community effort to make this happen.

All of the development will be off thread. No need for unnecessary distractions.

The three countries represented thus far are:

Belgium

Italy

USA

The three of us have been acquainted since 2006-2007

ww2_weasel4 years ago

A new addition has joined so 4 of us now.

He helped on EDEE in the past and has done some work for EDCE. He's not a programmer but has a different skill set that will help out in the long run.

ww2_weasel4 years ago

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ww2_weasel3 years ago (1 edit)

The following is from a discussion Thoba and I have been having. This in regards to maximizing the AI scripts in game already.

All the comments are in regards to WW2 Intermediate mod.

WW2_DB

Battleship = BB

Transport = TR

Armor Transport = T6

Liberty Ship = T8

Oceanliner =T9

Below says if loaded transport is 1 hex away melee

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T6)(UNIT)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(T6)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(UNIT)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T8)(UNIT)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(T8)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T9)(UNIT)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(T9)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

The below line basically says if it's loaded and over 1 space away and under max range of 8 then fire.

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T6)(UNIT)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(T6)(DIS)(GT)(1)(TYPE)(EQ)(T6)(DIS)(LT)(9)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(UNIT)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(GT)(1)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LT)(9)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T8)(UNIT)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(T8)(DIS)(GT)(1)(TYPE)(EQ)(T8)(DIS)(LT)(9)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T9)(UNIT)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(T9)(DIS)(GT)(1)(TYPE)(EQ)(T9)(DIS)(LT)(9)][FE]

Below says if unloaded transport is more than 1 hex or equal to 4 hexes or less away then fire.

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T6)(UNIT)(EQ)(F)(TYPE)(EQ)(T6)(DIS)(GT)(1)(TYPE)(EQ)(T6)(DIS)(LE)(4)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(UNIT)(EQ)(F)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(GT)(1)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LE)(4)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T8)(UNIT)(EQ)(F)(TYPE)(EQ)(T8)(DIS)(GT)(1)(TYPE)(EQ)(T8)(DIS)(LE)(4)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(T9)(UNIT)(EQ)(F)(TYPE)(EQ)(T9)(DIS)(GT)(1)(TYPE)(EQ)(T9)(DIS)(LE)(4)][FE]

I would set the order of the three above examples above so the loaded transports would be acted on first before unloaded transports.

Medium Bomber = F8

Ground Attack = F4

Battlecruiser = S8

Cruiser = CR

Light Cruiser - S5

Carrier = AC

AA Destroyer = X1

AA Frigate = X2

Light Cruiser AA = X3

Below example Medium Bomber only attacks if target is at crippled 1\2 threshold.

[SAI_ROE][F8][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(BB)(DMG)(LT)(13)(TYPE)(EQ)(BB)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F8][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(S8)(DMG)(LT)(11)(TYPE)(EQ)(S8)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F8][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DMG)(LT)(9)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F8][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DMG)(LT)(8)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F8][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(AC)(DMG)(LT)(9)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F8][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(X1)(DMG)(LT)(3)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F8][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(X2)(DMG)(LT)(4)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F8][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(X3)(DMG)(LT)(7)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

Below example Ground Attack only attacks if target is at crippled 1\2 threshold for smaller AA vessels and more than half damage Capitol Ships.

[SAI_ROE][F4][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(BB)(DMG)(LT)(9)(TYPE)(EQ)(BB)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F4][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(S8)(DMG)(LT)(9)(TYPE)(EQ)(S8)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F4][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DMG)(LT)(9)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F4][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DMG)(LT)(7)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F4][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(AC)(DMG)(LT)(9)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F4][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(X1)(DMG)(LT)(3)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F4][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(X2)(DMG)(LT)(4)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

[SAI_ROE][F4][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(X3)(DMG)(LT)(6)(TYPE)(EQ)(S5)(DIS)(EQ)(1)][ME]

How the EDCE engine reads the AI script:Important stuff must be queried first as AI reads it in this fashion: first line of data in process line of data out. So ya the fifo computer expression is the golden rule. First in first out

As we say in Italy "Never contradict a mad man"

The idea is, BB should (must) as first line check for transports.

Considering Enhanced EDCE game.

The AI should disturb human player prioritizing the attack, when the condition is met.

Condition 1 = human player - Host true - distance 2 - if condition is met [ME] until next turn - if not met go to next line

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(HOST)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][ME]

Condition 2 = computer player - Host true - distance 2 - if condition is met [ME] until next turn - if not met go to next line

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(HOST)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(PLY)(COMP)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][ME]

Condition 3 = human player - Host false - distance 2 - if condition is met [ME] until next turn - if not met go to next line

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(HOST)(EQ)(F)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][ME]

Condition 4 = computer player - Host false - distance 2 - if condition is met [ME] until next turn - if not met go to next line

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(HOST)(EQ)(F)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(PLY)(COMP)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][ME]

and so on... From near to far.

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(HOST)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LT)(9)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(HOST)(EQ)(T)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(PLY)(COMP)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LT)(9)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(HOST)(EQ)(F)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LT)(9)][FE]

[SAI_ROE][BB][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(HOST)(EQ)(F)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(PLY)(COMP)(TYPE)(EQ)(TR)(DIS)(LT)(9)][FE]

With these new concepts means that we may be able to tell the AI what to attack first and concentrate the attack on a specific unit as a human would due. Yes there will be some homework to do, and still some knowledge to gather.

My comment:

Having a very strong AI , may be seen as step that players love and miss from the old times🙂AI_standard & AI_Advanced

Or having three AI approach steps:

AI_Easy

AI_Medium

AI_Hard

ww2_weasel3 years ago

Here is a thinking of a cascade case:

"The ROE are setup that you can either OR or AND in a line. So “( A )” with three conditions is logically “X and Y and Z”

which means everything must be true to happen".

CR has 8 hit points - ME = 2 - FE = 1 (delicate).

Demo case: 2 CR VS 2 CR (human VS AI) Standard EDCE, but doesn't really matter the DB...

Turn 1, MAN = A human will normally concentrate fire. (at least this is what I would normally do), or move away. Let's assume two shots.

Turn - AI : 2 enemy CR, is there a very damaged (Less than 3 hit points) CR Human player at distance 2 - Y/N - If Yes ME - If No pass to next line

[SAI_ROE][CR][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DMG)(LT)(3)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][ME]

Turn - AI : 2 enemy CR, is there a very damaged CR (Less than 4 hit points) Human player at distance 2 - Y/N - If Yes FE - If No pass to next line

[SAI_ROE][CR][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DMG)(LT)(4)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][FE]

Turn - AI : 2 enemy CR, is there a very damaged CR (Less than 5 hit points) Human player at distance 2 - Y/N - If Yes FE - If No pass to next line

[SAI_ROE][CR][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DMG)(LT)(5)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][FE]

Turn - AI : 2 enemy CR, is there a very damaged CR (Less than 6 hit points) Human player at distance 2 - Y/N - If Yes FE - If No pass to next line

[SAI_ROE][CR][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DMG)(LT)(6)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][FE]

Turn - AI : 2 enemy CR, is there a very damaged CR (Less than 7 hit points) Human player at distance 2 - Y/N - If Yes FE - If No pass to next line

[SAI_ROE][CR][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DMG)(LT)(7)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][FE]

Turn - AI : 2 enemy CR, is there a very damaged CR (equal 8 no damage) Human player at distance 2 - Y/N - If Yes FE- If No pass to next line

[SAI_ROE][CR][(A)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DMG)(EQ)(8)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(PLY)(MAN)(TYPE)(EQ)(CR)(DIS)(LE)(2)][FE]

The next AI unit CR, will process the same lines, until the MAN player will get some damage on one of his CR.

"There always will be the chance of a miss" - NP. (good for both MAN & AI)

Once a CR will start getting 1 damage, the AI will start the concentrated fire. Until enemy reaches damage 3, Then the first line becomes true = ME

"Important stuff must be queried first as AI reads it in this fashion: first line of data in process line of data out.

So ya the fifo computer expression is the golden rule. - First in first out"

TR = when loaded - when human player will be always the first unit in the cascade.

TR = when loaded - when comp player will be the second unit in the cascade.

This means that during this shooting exchange if a human player moves a TR - loaded trying to sneak by, both CR will stop the fight and ME or FE the TR.

Empty TR may be left aside as not an immediate threat. But still high in the SAI_ROE list.