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This is rad!

Just played the first few levels of the web build.

Impeccable visual polish on the animations - the spherical motion and the motion blur trails on the stars in the "sky map", the transitions into and out of puzzle mode, the springy easing animations on rotation and such... Plenty of fantastic touches all around.

I feel your pain re: pico-8's two-button controls but I will share my experience with the controls regardless.

Much like another commenter, the puzzle mode controls are taking me a lot of time to adjust to. The "shift key" actions on Z and the "grab/drop" on X feel exactly backwards to me. I would expect Z grab and X as the "shift key." D-pad-up instead of the grab/drop button as the "select from inventory and grab" input was unexpected, and X+down to put a block back in my pocket was also a surprise. I wonder if there is a way the "shift key" could work like the PS3 "cross media bar" - up/down to cycle through a list of blocks - one of which is an empty slot to put the current block away - and keep left/right to rotate or reduce to one-directional rotation direction on press.

Progress should save on final polyomino placed, rather than on exit to menu. I had to reload the page to log in to leave this comment right after completing a puzzle and I came back to find the puzzle marked as incomplete again because I hadn't proceeded to the map screen after completing the puzzle.

Minor: you should disable key-repeat on the X grab/drop button. Once I held the button down in a "click and drag" fashion which resulted in the block being repeatedly grabbed and dropped.

The custom pause menu is cool. I didn't know it was possible to intercept the p8 menu button press.

I agree with another commenter that the perspective effect feels too dramatic.

Audio sadly wasn't working for me on the web build. Chrome was indicating the tab was playing audio but I couldn't hear anything.

I couldn't play too much today and I want to come back and play some more soon!

I have my own polyomino puzzle-type game called Sticky Chunks I've been developing and would appreciate feedback from a fellow blocks-enjoyer. I hope I don't come off as if I'm using your comment section to self-promote, but check the links on my personal site https://timromero.games if you'd like to play it or to email me. I feel like there is at least one UX feature I came up with for it that you might consider copying.

Werxzy210 days ago(+1)

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the detailed feedback!

For the controls, You can actually use C and X instead of Z and X to switch the order of the buttons (and X==V). I liked your idea of having swapping vertically and rotating with left/right at the same time, but I think it might get annoying to unselect (or put away) a piece. Maybe using X+Z to automatically unselect it or mess with the storage order. I’ll need to test it a bit before adding it to an update.

The progress should be saving when the level is done. I tested it 3 times on the browser (firefox + windows) and once with the downloaded version and it seems to work fine. This could somehow be pico-8 itself not properly storing the save when the save data is updated. It’s programmed to update the save data right after it detects a finished level and there’s no calls that clears a level’s completed status. (except save clearing, which is only on the main menu and requires pressing it 5-ish times)

I don’t think it’s possible to prevent key-repeating per button, not without some code that won’t fit into this game due to pico-8’s limitations. I’ve had both people who wanted repeating keys to be on or off (turned them on in version 1.1) I might try to squeeze in an option though.

There’s probably a lot I would do for this game if I had more tokens (though it would have made Infinimoes be in development for MUCH longer).

Unfortunately I don’t know what would cause the audio not to work. There is a sound button on the right that could be muting it (I think the sound settings are shared between most pico-8 projects).

Your game, Sticky Chunks, is pretty neat (even if I’ve lost interest in games revolving around highscores over the years). though I noticed the version that I could play was different from the one in the video (that looked like it was the pico8 version).

timromero210 days ago (2 edits) (+1)

thanks for the detailed response. You might be right about the save - it’s possible I never actually locked in the last piece on the level that I had to replay.

It might be interesting to be able to shelve pieces by dropping them outside the puzzle but I assume that’s not compatible with larger puzzle sizes.

the one-cart pico-8 web build for my game is here: https://stickychunks.fun/classic/

it’s more complete than the rewrite in progress but I got tired of dealing with token limits, gzip limits, controls limitations and such so I started from scratch in Raylib & C++. I’m in a similar boat where pico-8 limitations forced me to finish the game sooner and now that I’m unchained I am spending forever on polishing this new version.

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