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Tbh, whole situation could've been handled more professionally by both sides.

But you can't blame Cienie devs for trying to defend themselves where big name of G.Square attack your vn with false accusations because your vn doesn't have sex.

Secondly I don't know if you didn't read the Echo patreon announcement or you're just playing ignorant.

There is the "past few years" of George's drama was at fault, it's not the first time he tried to bully someone, sadly it probably won't be the last.

Sorry if I come off as rude.

NibelRitter88 days ago(+8)(-46)

I'm not just fully support George.

Saying that the Cienie devs had no fault in this situation is wrong.

George at least had a point, and that was the false advertising. Using NSFW art to promote the game when there’s nothing like that in the actual game.

And I consider turning a simple message on Discord into harassment to be an exaggeration. That message in no way constituted harassment.

Overall, this issue could have been resolved much better, but both sides made it worse, and I can't fully support either of them.

Aketu2488 days ago(+18)(-5)

Ok, first I never said Cienie devs weren't at fault, you just made that up.

As it seems the rest of your message, But I will bite.

Cienie devs never said there is going to be sex in their visual novel.
In fact, you can scroll through the page and you will find it.

Also It's a furry fandom everyone turns sfw things into nsfw art they enjoy, and the false "promo" art you spoke off is just artistic nudity.

Beside it wasn't even promo art... It was Just simple thank you art and Christmas wishes.

And before you bring up that people behind the cienie draw art of their character in nsfw poses, yes they did.

THEY'RE ALLOWED TO. It's their right to do so.

So please stop trying to blame them for everything when you clearly don't grasp the situation.

NibelRitter88 days ago(+7)(-44)

I respect that everyone creates art according to their own interests, but false advertising is still false advertising and shouldn’t be easily overlooked.

RealMatys88 days ago(+15)(-6)

The two art pieces in questions weren't even used for advertising. One was a april fools joke and the other was a "thank you" christmas artpiece with tastefull nudity. Check your facts before yapping.

Aketu2488 days ago(+19)(-3)

Right, Then why George didn't talk about Astatos false advertising?

Its sfw card game but art is borderline nsfw and they post nsfw promos all the time.

kairohyena88 days ago (1 edit) (+14)(-5)

False advertising such as, a single artistic nudity piece back in 2022 (which especially with how the vn process goes the creators coulda been unsure if they wanted to include nsfw or not), and something they made for april fools day. So idk where this sort of idea that this vn engage in false advertising, not once have they claimed they were going to add nsfw scenes into the story, even if you look at the game page here there's literally no indication or lies that there's nsfw in the story. So besides those two pretty lazy examples, the rest of the "false advertising" is them showing support for fan art, so if you wanna cry a river over fan art then thats a you issue

Stwomz88 days ago(+3)(-3)

Your crying is easy to overlook XD

makato12388 days ago (1 edit) (+9)(-4)

Everyone else is responsible for George's words and actions, never George himself apparently.

Even then as a lead dev of one of Echo Project's most prolific works, he has a duty to uphold the professional reputation of their group and games. He's not some no-name rando he has a responsibility to watch what he says.

Like even if the Cienie people never brought up The Things That Georgesquares Himself Openly Talked About in relation to their game, it would have been something else in the future that got him fired. This wasn't his first and only incident, not by a long shot. Guy had a long history of FAFO, and it's finally caught up with him.

Rave5 days ago

This is news to me🤯

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