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Having a Russian name and flag, I was going to congratulate you and give you some words of sympathy. But then... I was disappointed with that "I don't like homosexuals".
But well, I have to understand your situation and the context in which you must have been raised. That you are here, among us, with gay Furry Visual Novel, gives me hope. You certainly have a much more open mind than a lot of Russians, I wish you were fighting an internal struggle or that you are simply curious. Just keep exploring and being true to yourself and what you like without caring what others tell you to feel or think. I wish you the best, you were born in a place with a long history of oppression and iron hands, certainly not as much freedom as in other places. But you know the saying: "Hard times make strong men."

Take care!

Vladislav Krivov28 days ago

Вы не правы, я не гомосексуал. Я знаю, что этот роман для таких людей, мне нравится художественный стиль, а не отношения между мужчинами и мужчинами. В России нет угнетения, такие больные идеи просто недопустимы.

The_Epipan28 days ago

Ok, I apologize then; it is true that one can enjoy the Exorcist movie without being Catholic or enjoy movies with romance between heterosexual characters being homosexual.

Regarding the thing about that there is no oppression in Russia, I thought I heard that homosexual acts were punishable by law with prison in Russia. Is that not true?

Vladislav Krivov26 days ago

Гомосексуалисты не могут создавать, распространять, распространять гомосексуальную пропаганду среди лиц до 18 лет, их это не волнует, они это делают и их арестовывают, затем отправляют в концентрационные центры для психически больных, и начинается их лечение. гомосексуальность – это сексуальное отклонение, такое же, как педофилия, зоофилия (единственно правильное – традиционные браки).

The_Epipan26 days ago

Oh, really? I bet that they would consider animated series like Adventure Time or Steven Universe, especially, as "homosexual propaganda". If the creators of those series had been made in Russia then would they have been sent to concentration camps for the mentally ill? Did I understand correctly? Well... I guess it shouldn't shock me that much, after all in the western world homosexuality was considered a mental illness until the 1970s. And well... at least Russia is better off than several fanatical Arab countries where women are still stoned to death for adultery.

robotcoyote8 days ago(+1)

Not to burst your bubble but remember that one can go “Oh, this guy is wrong and not worth my time” and just ignore people.

The_Epipan7 days ago

Yeah, thanks robotcoyote (funny nickname, haha, are you a protogen or something?).
I guess I was hoping the whole time that the guy was maybe confused or in denial and that maybe I could help him out of it.

robotcoyote7 days ago (1 edit) (+1)

Can people be reasoned out of irrationally held beliefs, though? You can try but I wouldn’t hold my breath.

The_Epipan6 days ago

Well, I know it's not the most common thing... but neither is it the case to find one of those people among the public who not only read the synopsis and download the "gay game" but complete it and later wait to see if it will be continued.

A while ago I saw a video on YouTube of a streamer who interviewed an ex-neo-Nazi who said he was very into it... until he met someone who instead of attacking him was kind of open-minded, as if he wanted to understand the whys of the guy. And over time it seems that this person was making him question certain things as indoctrinated or fanatic about what he was into and he ended up leaving those neo-Nazi groups he was in.

Is in spanish, though :T

So well, I thought it could be one of those cases. And who knows, maybe he still is but ended up writing those things because he was defensive. There are quite a few homophobes who are actually repressed homosexuals, and that homophobia is actually jealousy, fear and resentment. There are even "anti-furries" who later end up "becoming" furries; that initial interest instead of indifference can be something.
It's better not to be polarized, to be open to debate/argue. Hopefully at least all that is a seed for him to reflect.

robotcoyote5 days ago(+1)

I do agree that sometimes these people’s minds can be changed with “emotion” based approaches rather than “reason” based arguments. Being a stranger on the internet one disagrees with on such a polarizing matter is a considerable disadvantage when trying to do so, though.

Anyways, I don’t think it’s appropriate to talk about this here. itch lets folks put links in their profile, so instead of comments I suggest making use of that and discussing with people on a different platform.

Noumiso_NOPEACE19 days ago

classical Russian😄

Ghostel1223 days ago

I'm sorry, but wym by "having a russian name and flag I was going to congratulate you and give you some words of sympathy" congratulate with what and give some sympathy for what😭 /gen

The_Epipan22 days ago

I know about the anti-LGBT+ policies and laws in Russia... so the simple fact that someone raised in that environment is open enough to give a furry VN with gay characters a chance, even if he considers himself heterosexual, is already a very good thing and deserves my support. Also, as I wrote to him, it could be that perhaps he was conflicted between what he really liked and the fear/pressure of his environment.

About 10 years ago I met a 16-year-old boy from Spain who was curious about these things, and at first I got along very well with him but suddenly he became unfriendly, almost homophobic, I think his conservative religious parents discovered something and brainwashed him.
I also had other friend, a 13-year-old girl, on a text roleplaying forum, from Ecuador, who wrote better erotic stories than I at 22... but one day her parents found out about this and forbade her from using the computer, she managed to write me a farewell before.
I had a gay male friend from Mexico for a few years and I saw that he had some awkward moments with his truck driver father when he came out as gay, his parents are divorced and he ended up moving in with his mother, he is quite happy now and have a lot of fun at night, a bit too much for my taste but, oh well, hahaha.
And I have a Polish-Russian friend, a fan of MLP FiM, so I know there are nice Russians out there.

So I know that, in some places more than others, it can still be hard to be true to yourself and what you like. Even in fairly modern/progressive Western countries where gay couples can legally marry and adopt children, there is still usually some internal struggle because there is always the idea of what is "most normal" and the ideal of a typical family, and if you are one of those who feel that you were "born in the body of the gender with which you do not identify", it is even more complicated because there is also a lot of controversy about it due to whether it is okay to "transition as young as possible" since a true gender change that does not involve lifelong hormonal treatments and negative health effects is not yet possible.

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