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im totally lost with this one ... after talking to the woman in the garden it seems impossible to get past any of the other characters at all so cant see away to progress ... 

my best guess is its in the boiler room but everything i try i get seen and sent back !

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Thank you for playing and and for commenting, I like to hear people's progress and feedback!  I put a hint below:

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You're on the right track.  From the perspective of the guy shoveling coal, when can he see you and when does his view of you become briefly obstructed?

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Ah, sorry, bigjus, I responded to your second post and was going to add a second response and in the process I accidentally deleted your second post and my response, thinking I was deleting my draft posts.  I don't think there's any "un-delete" function here.  You helpfully mentioned that the jump up at the coal-shoveler in the basement seemed too tight, and that's very helpful feedback, thank you!  I'll add that if he says "get out of here before you get hurt," it's because he saw you, and if it's "I heard that," it's because you ran in close proximity to him.  When you jump up, I'd suggest not having the shift key held: crouch until the right moment, then jump straight up and move left while in air; land on the coal cart, jump straight up again and move left while in air to land on the walkway.  Then hold shift and move across.  Sorry about the deletions, thanks again for playing!

no problem ! ive been trying what you suggest from the start of getting in that room but it still seems impossible to pass for me  - i think youve got the timing too tight to be fair on the player - another second and it would be achieveable ( i think !)

I really love the idea of this game but I can't get past this point. I get BOTH messages LOL. 

Thank you for playing and for commenting -- I appreciate it!  I'm sorry this part is frustrating.  Are you getting caught going from right to left, or on the way back out of the room?  I'm planning to update this part of the game in response to the comments, but I think I need to see people play this section to figure out what I can do to make it smoother.  For a while I thought perhaps the colliders on the smoke that block the shoveler's view were not working on PC, but then I tested on a PC and it worked as expected.  I'm a little stumped myself!

Going into the room right to left. I'm on a mac if that makes a difference.