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I’d say it’s  little of both. The vamps survive at zero hp unless there’s sunlight or silver involve and they die forever. 
however, their hopeless existence is societal: the upper class hates you and you are relegated to lives in alleys and sewers. You will never be at the top, but that shouldn’t stop you from having a good time. 

Thank you very much! That seems like a good balance to play with. Sort of reminds me of the first edition of VtM.

Cheers!