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You wrote a character who has, multiple times, SEXUALLY HARASSED the main character. I don't think I have to explain why this is bad. Also, consent is really REALLY important which obviously isn't inside the mind of the writer. I am enjoying the game, but I just really REALLY don't want to support a writer who doesn't mind having a MAIN-CHARACTER who is potentially either a rapist or someone who sexually harasses others.

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I highly agree, and that's not even acknowledging the fact it's been happening since the Main Character was in high school. It isn't just sexual harassment. It is also pedophilia, and teacher-student relationships, which is illegal in a good amount of countries. 

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I think the whole consent part is a bit blurred here. Whenever there is a teacher/student archetype in these stories of course it’s going to be a risky topic because of the implied abuse of power. 

That being said. I think calling a 25 year old hitting on an 18 year old doesn’t make them a pedo. 

Oh, the main character was 18?
I guess I should've read the story better then. Sorry about that.

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I think when it comes to visual novels, there's certain morals /ethics that kinda get tossed out the window. it's a fantasy right? I mean, I don't know about you but there are no hot beast men in my city... In some of the other games I've played - there's way more issues with relationship/power dynamics that I definitely wouldn't be ok with *cough*DOZER*cough...

While age of consent differs from country to country, we pretty much all can agree that a teacher hitting on someone in high school isn't very good. Also, considering that the MC is 18 and it was said it was going for a few years which isn't very good. And, in the case where 'morals/ethics get tossed out the window' doesn't happen in many of the visual novels I've played, only this one. And it just doesn't settle right with me. If you've played a game where stuff like this happening with minors by a legal adult then maybe you should question the developer. I am also aware the age of consent in Japan (where I believe this takes place, correct me if I'm wrong) is 13, it still doesn't really make it right from a world viewpoint. 13 is young. Too young. I don't really know what I'm saying right now, sorry if this is hard to read or make sense of, I kinda jump between topics a lot and I'm sorry. Anyway, have a great day!


Also, your note about Dozer - EA is a great game, but I can't see why you make that comment. He is actually a sweet heart.

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the game doesn’t take place in Japan. It’s implied to take place in a fictitious city. 

Also Dozer breeds you completely without your consent and he also attempts to rape you and that was an issue with his ex as well. So yeah I would question the developer. 

Ah. Still - age of consent matters.

And I didn't know that happens. Sorry. Havent fully played Dozers route.

very true. I totally agree with you.

I'd also be real curious if someone wrote a VN where all the characters are you know.. not in school and... have jobs and are in their 30s. but maybe that's too crazy of a concept. 

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Oh could you IMAGINE if someone did that? God, the dream~

Yeah, I guess some morals do get thrown away.
But I don't think sexual harassment shouldn't be one of those.
Overage or not.

Also, I've never heard of Dozer, what is it?

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He is one of the characters who has a route in the VN - Extracurricular activities.

Oh, thank you!

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Hi! That's not what this is about. I'm concerned about the writers POV on sexual harassment with minors which is a serious issue. Thanks!

Are you sure it was sexual harassment ? 

Yes. It has been mentioned a lot. Please take a look into Gil's route if you haven't already. Have a great day!

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So, I've been through Gil's route. I don't think it is sexual harassment. MC is clearly enjoying himself. I think he feels conflicted because of the Teacher/student relationship, and possibly homophobic, stigmata he could get, He states, multiple times,  that he enjoys the touching, so it is not unwanted/unwelcome physical contact. And Gil says he was just joking in high school. We also haven't seen everything since the route isn't completed yet, and we aren't shown all of MC's feelings and thoughts. One may get the feeling that MC doesn't have consent because he constantly tries to stop gil from touching him, but I think the writer is trying to show it IMPLICITLY that MC is indeed okay with it. Plus we don't entirely know society's norms and views on sensitive topics for sure in the universe of this game. These are all my personal impressions of the game and gil's route. I hope this helps.

Hey! It doesn't matter if someone is enjoying them self or not - sexual harassment is sexual harassment. That's like saying "The millennial wanted to die - they enjoyed it - so its not murder." And, given with what I've played thru, MC doesnt seem to mind what others think about him being gay. Again - if MC enjoyed themselves it still is sexual harassment given no consent. There is no consent stated. And, if you threatened to rape/murder etc someone over months and you went to court about it and said "it was a joke!"your not going to get off scott free. It still happened. While, yes the route isn't finished yet, the stuff that is out is what we should focus on. Because its available. We haven't been told that he has given consent. Thats mainly what I'm focused on. MC doesn't want Gil touching him. No consent there. Sexual harassment. It doesn't matter about the morals of that universe - because the writer is from here. Earth. Not the fictional world. And I'm gonna take a fat guess and say rape wouldn't be OK in this world. And if it IS ok, then the developer needs a moral check. Thanks!