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scopperil4 years ago(+2)

I will always love a game that lets you build a murderboard, and that's what the overlapping truths and lies remind me of here. I'm interested that the maps don't really refer to geography, too, but to structuring of information. Given it's hard to spend time with each other and physical items you have me wondering if it's possible to play this over online node graph sites, or mind map software? (I've played some excellent Microscope on Miro, as it goes.)

I'll echo the thoughts about playing cards that others have said; it feels like there's a lot of information on a card that isn't being used (rank, suit, difference from the card it's played on). If you just had a limited stack of index cards, that would provide the same limit on resources you mentioned earlier, perhaps? But I like your blackjack idea more; lots of little clues or two big ones, risk of endangering yourself if you overshoot, that sort of thing.

The Le Carre tone is strong; I like the way you could slot in other mission types easily; it's good. Thank you for the game!

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albertomuti4 years ago

Thanks for the comments! Indeed, I think the game may be more intuitive to play with a corkboard than laying flat on a tabletop - and of course you can play online using graph notes sites or Miro, I have no idea why I didn't actively specify it in the text. 

We'll definitely take a look at the role of cards, and may give the Blackjack part a go, though I'm not sure the game *needs* anything like a chance-driven resolution system. As a small note, we do use suit and rank, to refer cards back to specific elements on the maps, so that players will be forced to reincorporate previously appeared elements in their narration. 

I'm also very excited to develop more mission types and expand that section - Flavio's idea to make it modular is really cool! 

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scopperil4 years ago(+1)

small followup then; I may have misunderstood something. Does the suit of the card you play affect the element you're discussing, then? or (as I thought before) it's just a label? ie it may be 8-of-hearts, but may as well be 8-of-spades, or just card-21? 

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albertomuti4 years ago

What you do is, you mark down the rank and suit of a card near the element that allowed you to draw it (so an element of the mission you approached, or one of your own relationships you revealed). When you play a card take some big decisive action or reveal something, you need to narrate how the element connected to that card was involved in you taking that action or finding out.  

So there isn't any general requirement, say "you can only use a hearts card for an action that centers around seduction", or anything like that. But there's a specific requirement, focused on your game and what you already have introduced: the cards require you to reincorporate elements that have already been discussed at the table. 

So, say you have 2 cards in your hand: one is the 8 of hearts, one is the 6 of spade. You drew the 8 of hearts when you approached the prison your busted agent (also one of the characters, the Casualty) was being held in, by bribing one of the guards. You drew the 6 of spades when you revealed that you and the Planner, your mission head, have been lovers in the past. 

Now you want to do something big, let's say, check if the Casualty's claim that he escaped on his own from the prison is true, or if he's lying. 

To do so you have to use one of your cards. When you play it, you need to incorporate the related element: so you may say how you talked to the bribed guard, and play the 8 of hearts; or you may invent something about how your relationship with the Planner helped you in this, and play the 6 of spades. 

This helps making your story a bit tighter (instead of generating a lot of leads and only actually playing out a few), and also helps creating the tangled knots of relationships and rivalries you often find in the stories we're trying to emulate. It is, effectively, a labeling system - but a deliberate one. I don't quite see that as not using the cards, but ymmv of course :)

We also use the 4 Aces to quickly identify the operation critical elements on the chart, so all players remember them. But all dynamics and interactions are exactly the same; simply, the game pre-determines what card you'll obtain if you do an approach action centered on one of those elements. 

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scopperil4 years ago(+1)

Hi - that's great, thank you, it means I did understand right! I didn't mean to sound disparaging about the use of cards, but I suspect I did, sorry.

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albertomuti4 years ago

No need to apologise, and you didn't sound disparaging! The discussions so far have been interesting in showing me what people expect when they see cards used in a game - and as with any expectations, I deviate from them at my peril :) I decided to explain at length because it helps me visualise things; sorry, I used you to think out loud! 


This shows that we need to think about how we use cards, and how we explain their use - it may well remain just what it is, of course, but if it does it will be deliberate. 

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