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It seems Spiral Power got a huge buff in V0.31. Instead of being stuck in the millions, mine now deals 1.1T of damage. It's still less than a millionth of my Click Power, but it used to be much lower, so big improvement. I don't play the Beach anymore, since I got the CGs. I use the Countryside exclusively, because of the absurdly high Pearl yield. Recently, I've only been leveling up a few girls at a time, in order to properly measure how many Pearls I'm getting from Regional Loyalty. However, with only 5 or 6 girls above level 1, I still have a massively boosted Spiral Power. I assume that taking the time to max everyone out would be an even more massive Spiral power-up. I've been double and triple checking the rate of Loyalty Pearl gain for each Region. I listed the Campus in a previous comment. Once I've confirmed the numbers, I'll post the City and Countryside rates.

Oddly enough, the Spiral does absolutely nothing to the Campus girls now, but is still perfectly effective against your Harem Girls. Not sure why, probably a minor bug.

Devilofanger3 years ago (1 edit) (+1)

So it was buffed just recently, nice. I don't think I was the only one who said something about it but I've definitely been one of the most vocal about it. That's actually about a 100,000x increase which should help it keep up for a lot longer, or at least if you level every girl rather than just a few. Maxing out every girl might not result in more spiral power if there's a cap based on total levels, but otherwise it might.

When you say Spiral does nothing to the Campus girls now, does that include the City, Countryside and Beach conquest girls or just the College Campus conquest girls? Probably a bug either way. Helping against the conquest girls is one of Spiral Power's main uses. That includes having Titnosis keep doing it for you while you relax or take a break. So hopefully it's just a bug.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago (2 edits)

I haven't tested it against the City, Country and Beach girls yet. I'll do that today. The buff is actually about 1Mx previous Spiral Power, since it it went from millions to trillions, and since I spent last night maxing out several girls at 50k, my Spiral should be much stronger. I'll edit this comment when I have the number.

Edit: My SP is now 4T. That's so much better than before. Spiral Glitch extends to City and Country. Probably Beach, too.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago

City Pearl gain starts out at 1P/35Lv, until Lv70, when it becomes 1P/10Lv, then 1P/5Lv at Lv140, 1P/4Lv at Lv210, 1P/3Lv at Lv280, 1P/2.5Lv at Lv350, 4.5P/10Lv at Lv420, 5.5P/10Lv at Lv490, 6P/10Lv at Lv560, 6.5P/10Lv at Lv630, 7P/10Lv at Lv700, and continues to increase incrementally every 70 levels.

Haven't checked Beach or Countryside yet for Glitch or Pearl gain rates. Countryside needs to be reset first, so I'm saving it for last. Probably won't bother with Beach, since it supposedly doesn't count towards Pearl gain at all.

The Spiral Glitch doesn't always kick in at the City, unlike the Campus, where's it's always useless. Sometimes the Spiral works, sometimes it doesn't. It must be difficult to program so many games at once. Hope Changer is getting enough sleep.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago (1 edit)

Spiral Power is actually not glitched the way we thought. It's just so weak in the territories, that it has no visible effect on any girl with HP higher than 1B. However, against your Harem Girls, the attack power is at least 1Mx higher, the difference growing more when you level up more girls. I don't think there's a Spiral Cap, so just level Erika up to 50k, make her Librarian, and use her to level Sally up, then level Sally up manually as far as she'll go, make her the new Librarian and finally, level everyone else up. Spoiler Alert: Even with an Auto-Clicker going at 40cps, it still takes about 90min. per girl (about 600 levels per 30sec.) to level them up this way, assuming that your Click Power is high enough to 1-shot their defenses continuously, as in Lv250+, as I suggested before. None of the Harem Girls' shields ever get as high as the Countryside. Even at 108k, the strongest ones' defenses are still in the low Qs, rather than in Overflow Errors. Considering that amount of time WITH an Auto-Clicker, it would take between Days to Weeks, trying to do them all manually, and I don't have the finger functionality that I used to. Arthritis is hitting my hands, so I genuinely need it.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago

Countryside Pearl gain started at 8P for the first 70Lv, then 24P forLv71-140, 41P for Lv141-210, 57P for Lv211-280, 74P for Lv281-350, and continues to increase incrementally every 70Lv. The rapid Pearl gain, as well as the massive WP gain from the Country Girls, makes this area the best place to farm both of those things.

Side note: When trying to earn Cash, have Ms. Rack dance at the Auditorium(if you've summoned her, that is). She has the most raw Talent for it. Then you bring Campus Loyalty to a high level, go back to the Auditorium, click Change, and click Ms. Rack again. The amount she earns should go up correspondingly to the Campus Loyalty. Every 1000Lv should allow her to earn 500k, and it stacks. At Lv3000, she brings in $1.5M+, which is easily enough to upgrade Buildings and store-bought Power-ups. After a Reset, she continues earning the same amount of Cash, even though Loyalty has been reset to 0, until you try to change who's dancing, then it goes back to Base Value.

Devilofanger3 years ago(+1)

How did you find out how Spiral Power is behaving in territories? Did Changer say something about it? But it's still a glitch right? Whatever Spiral Power or Click Power is stated to be is supposed to be true across the board right? How would it even be different unless there's a value for each territory that has to be changed?

I calculated 100,000x because you said your spiral power was previously 10M but had increased to 1T after the update. 1T divided by 10M is 100,000. But I see it can still increase further. Have you tried Titnosis on the territory girls? If Spiral Power currently only has 1 / 1000th of its stated power against territory girls, 1 / 1000th of 1T is 1B, and for Titnosis that's damage per second (barring shop upgrades). If you have 4T spiral power and it's really 1/1000th of stated spiral power against territory girls, then it should be one shotting against 4B or less HP.

I don't think I'd want to program many big games at once. Or I'd want to take turns with them so that I'm only focusing on one to a few at a time and the feedback that comes with them.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago

I think that the update is having trouble applying itself correctly to the Territories. When I look at the Stats page in Settings, it takes about 5-6 seconds for the update to change the SP display. Depending on what your total Harem Level is, the Spiral Power starts out with a low number, then after 5-6 seconds, it increases significantly. I don't think the increase is registering correctly in the Territories. I found out, because I double checked it myself, after a Pearl reset. Once your Harem Level is high enough, you'll be able to do SOME damage to the Territory Girls, just not as much as intended. Back before the Reset, the SP would first register in the Millions, then go straight to the Trillions. It got to the point of becoming 10T before the reset, which is where my numbers came from. Click Power is always accurate. However, I have noticed that some of the WP gathering done by Harem Girls isn't displaying right. My High End Summon Girls are only displaying 250T, but I gain 25Q instead. I'm glad I can help debug this game, I just hope we're not causing Changer too much anxiety. Guy's got enough on his plate, as is.

Devilofanger3 years ago(+1)

If it takes 5-6 seconds to change, then the game could be having trouble processing the change for some reason. Low trillions isn't even that high for this game though so would be surprising if high numbers are the issue. Also maybe the territories are not really set up for it to take 5-6 seconds to update Spiral Power, but it's not supposed to take that long anyway. Interesting find with the library bug too. Yeah I don't think levels should be more expensive after using the library.

I know there's a lot of display bugs and maybe bugs with girls taking off clothes in a different order than their pictures and such, but those are usually minor, it takes a lot of effort to find and fix all of them, and Changer has bigger things to worry about. But if it's causing game mechanic or processing issues then that is something to worry about. Ideally you would like adequate time to fix game bugs, read feedback and implement popular or good ideas. But if you have a lot on your plate then it can get in the way of doing that or stress you out. If it becomes a problem then maybe limiting how much you take on or commission is an answer. Pushing yourself too much is unhealthy.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago (2 edits)

It turns out that I was able to get all 52 girls currently available up to Lv100K. With a combined Harem level of 5.2M, Spiral power has reached 30Q. However, it's taken me over a week to get everyone up to that point, even with an Auto-Clicker. However, before the update applies itself, it's just above 4B. The amount of work involved is enormous. My Click Power right now is probably somewhere in the 100-200QT range, considering it cycles through -21.47QT to 21.47QT in increments of T several times.

I'm currently at Countryside Lv8400, and I have 117586 Pearls waiting to be redeemed, plus the 52K from my Harem. The Spiral seems to be working at full power, so the recent update has fixed the problem. Haven't tested it in the Campus or City, though.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago

Interestingly enough, I think I found a Library-related bug. When I use the Library to quickly bring up a girl's level, the price for leveling them up normally seems to increase ridiculously. Because I'd been doing this exclusively before, I thought they were just unreasonably expensive. But after a Reset, I noticed that Erika, the first girl you get, is even cheaper than Helen by at least 2Q, when they're at the same level. However, Mavre, one of the new additions, was leveled up in the Library, and her price is now in the NONs. And she's at less than half the level of Erika or Helen. The Library is still the easiest place for me to level them up, so this bug doesn't really stop me, because of how I'm set up, but other people may find this bug extremely troublesome.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago (1 edit)

Interestingly enough, I believe I have found the maximum level that can be achieved before WP prices start super-inflation. Erika was able to reach Lv54947 before her price began going up massively for each level. After the WP price of a girl reaches 242Q, they begin increasing by at least 1Q per level, which becomes very expensive very quickly. Before that, it would take almost 100 levels to increase the price by 1Q. Still, almost reaching 55K wasn't bad.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago

Guess what? I've been using the Invisible Spiral this whole time, and it's glitchy. But Titnosis and Assnosis (yes, he actually added it) work just fine anywhere.

Devilofanger3 years ago

I have tried the invisible spiral but haven't used it much so didn't know it was glitchy. But the other spirals work fine anywhere even with high spiral power? I saw he added Assnosis which is great. There were other people that wanted it too.

True Hyper Sonic3 years ago

The amount of damage that a Girl's Shields can take in the higher levels of Countryside is staggering. The Overflow Errors cause their HP to loop through -21,474,850T (-21.47QT) to 21,474,850T. (21.47QT) This can loop multiple times. I'm currently in the Lv9200 range, and they loop at least eight times per Girl. Thankfully, the Overflow Errors aren't harming gameplay, it's just a visual bug. Of all the things that need improving, this is pretty low priority.

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