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don't know about subscriberstar, but patreon is horrible. They limit artists greatly with purist rules. No bestiality, no rape I think and some other things I couldn't tell on top of my head right now. Purchasing from sites like itchio is a good way to go from my perspective. No assumptions, just informing.

Also subscriber plans like that is way too abused nowdays for milking patrons. A lot of great projects are basically dead milk fest because of it. Not a great practice to have that option imo

LAGS3 years ago

Yes. The patreon model seems fair only if a game is going to receive updates in timely manner.

edgartheslayer3 years ago (3 edits)

Well not necessarily. If someone wants to support monthly, regardless of the dev's update schedule, it's absolutely fine. It's just bad when the artist decides to start to maliciously stall his work progress for more money, going against promises and sincerety.

But that was like a side note about many devs, not all of course. My main problem with patreon is that it doesn't care about artist freedom of expression. They are very upright strict with their subjective, arbitrary and hypocritical purist views on morality. For examples - if you have rape, sex with monsters that resemble real animals too much, (probably prostitution too), birthing younglings that aren't eggs and/or immediately adults after.. you are gone until you change it. And there are many, much more innocent fenishes they don't allow.
New artists think that patreon is the #1 go to for support to do whatever they want to create, and unfortunately it's not and I feel many are trapped there already, restricted by patreon's dumb rules or just prefer the money they are already making. It's unfortunate

LAGS3 years ago(+1)

When I was on Patreon, I knew there must be some rules on patreon that would restrict artistic freedom. So never really used it to post details about games. I do not know what's itch.ios take on such content. But I'm gonna making them as long as my brain works.

Patreon is very well known site. Almost all of the creators must have used patreon once in their life. These artists can shift to any other platforms if they want too.

AnonymousMind3 years ago

On top of their strict purity of content policies, Patreon also takes up to 15%+ of the profits depending on the developer page you make there. Not only that, they are NOT a discovery platform. So the only way people can find you there is if you promote your product elsewhere ( which is difficult to do on most sites due to site policies thanks to the modern age if you're not already selling it there...), share the link personally or people already know you and search for you manually. Even then they might not be able to find you because Patreons auto-suggest search bar is garbage. Google only works to find you there after your page has been up for a while. Potential new supporters may never find you there simply because they don't have a way of randomly coming across you unless your product is already in a place where they can. Such as here.
Been there, done that. Never again unless certain conditions are met.

Patreons a great place for a tip jar for already "well known" content creators though. Trash for anything else as far as I'm concerned. Better off making a living elsewhere if you're not popular or already well known. but that's just my personal opinion on that site with a bad experience. If you are really curious about Patreon you can find a pricing link at the bottom of their page and how it works if you haven't seen it already. Let me know if you want the link. I'm not so prejudice against them yet that I wouldn't share their information if asked for it. But I'm not going to butter it up either. I'm not saying don't use it. All I'm saying is wait until you need a tip jar for all your supporters & followers. That's what Zone-Tan does...

AnonymousMind3 years ago (1 edit)

Honestly, for now, I'm glad you chose itch.io to upload your game. This is a discovery platform as far as I can tell. Not the greatest one but not bad either. All you need to do is upload your content and you'll appear at the top of the "Most Recent" games list. Which players can discover just by searching for new adult games while here and selecting the "Most Recent" tab or by playing with the filters a bit. They don't even have to know you exist when you're on there to discover you.

I've came across some extremely random new games that I never even knew existed on my visits here just because of that. That is a good thing. There is nothing wrong with a bit of random. There is no feeling quite like discovering something new and enjoyable by chance. Sites like this are too far and few in between nowadays with all the privacy concerns. Its ruining the internet! Have privacy concerns/ issues. It's simple. Don't put all your personal information on the web. This is a great site for finding new games and developers.

The only way I can think of that it could be better is if the visitors didn't have to play with the filters so damn much to find adult games and new ones at that. But at least it is possible for now or else I wouldn't even be here. Good thing for bookmarks for quick access ^_^ Besides, got to make the site kid friendly somehow...