Ay, umm so another question what are good programs for pixel art and the like, there are a lot of options out there, but I am really quite new to this so I was wondering what you think is a good one for me to look into, because you can hardly look into a game without the understanding of the actual look. I truly am sorry for bothering you, and I know you probably are busy, but I'm asking you because you have good judgement. Rpg maker vx ace is working so well. Again thanks for everything (including the games)!!!