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If only Leo kept his $h1t together at the very last minute, there could have been a good conclusion to his route. He and Chase would have fixed their relationship issues post-Echo. After all that has happened to them, through thick and thin, why shouldn't they be together happily.

I dont want to explain alot tho anyway leo obsessed with chase wanting him to be together again and live or stayed st echo while chase can't cus he rlly needs to go back to college so thats also leo being sh*tty to his friends so he can have more time to spend with chase so well u know what happen next......


Also ppl be like "dude if u simp for leo theres rlly wrong with you hes a pyscho and a manipulator"  i.....i just want them to be happy together again if only chase could change leo and settle everything but...no idk ahhh!! I  just  love leo ok hes ......sweet aside from that they describes abt him also me but i dont care tho and well u already know echo has no good endings but i still love the story especially the characters

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Actually, there's one good ending exist.

In Jenna route, you have to say 'we keep each other sanity' if you say 'this town breaks people' you instantly lock yourself in bad end of her route


In my opinion, it's best possible ending for everyone, atleast everyone alive

No, you could disagree with her about Leo’s behavior earlier and get the good ending. The bad ending is only possible if you agree with her there and choose “This town breaks people” later. (You can confirm this yourself in game/Jenna-Wednesday.rpy at lines 2277, 2615, 2621, and 9340)

Lol, i got both endings and for me it depended on those two answers

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There is no need to explain if we are discussing Leo's route (implying that we have already read it). 

Yes, Leo did show signs of toxic relationship attributes, but his "psycho[tic] and manipulat[ive]" tendencies are not without reason. He dearly and clearly loves Chase (probably too much), but he allow his fears and expectations to cloud his thinking and judgment sometimes hurting people in the process; he loses touch with reality when he imagines and fantasizes about Chase, for better or worse. But, can he really be blamed? Maybe his upbringing contributed to his insecurities? Are we any wiser in punishing a child for eating a forbidden fruit that we came to covet so much? No need to answer, just food for thought.

"Those that hurt the most need love the most." If I was Chase, I would have given Leo the chances to change and make better himself. They had a history, a childhood, and a relationship, as well as dreams and aspirations. They could have reached ad astra together. If not life-threatening, why cease all that over feeling uncomfortable? A part of life is about learning from mistakes and improving the self - molding into the ideal person for yourself and for others. Leo is deserving of love, he just need guidance, patience, and open-mindedness.

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Well, i think this shit happened, not because he didnt hold his shit together.

I thinking that, he was under 'histeria' which made him lost his sanity at very last moment, if you read with attention, you can see that he didnt even realise completely that Chase dying and he killed his friend

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First, I didn't know it had a good ending from jenna's cus i only pick leo and flynn's route cus im.......gay....and i simp both of them.Second,ok now i understand thx tho,and do u think echoproject is planning to make echo 2? I was hoping it would.....thx again and to other ppl who replied my first comment i thought i was alone also.....tbh i dont ship kudzu and chase even there together now my opinion heh...I SHIP CHASE AND CHULAAAA!!!STILL AND IDC!!!

I talk too much i should stop.......lol

Epilogue, in the end of Flynn's route, gives me a small hope, so maybe Echo 2 or something, close familiar to it, maybe will be

You mean Chase (Chula) and Chulo (Leo); chulx is slang for cute/hot in Spanish (former is feminine, latter is masculine).

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Towards the end, the gang did not show any signs of hysteria. If you read with attention, Leo tells Chase, "Seeing you leave on that [redacted for spoilers] was too much..." admitting that, in the moment, he was well aware of his thoughts and emotions. Leo had considerable level of control over himself but chose to be selfish. Otherwise, he and Chase and everyone else would have found sanctuary.

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I think you're wrong, your theory doesn't answers, why the hell Leo killed Chase, at very last moment


I still think, he was affected by Histeria, because he killed raccoon(i always fucking forgeting his name) Kudzu-Kudzo? Agh, fuck this.

AAAAND... he dont even realised that Chase dying on his hands by bleeding out.


He did it on purpose, my thoughts.

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Kudzu. I do not think I am wrong. If anything, I have some merit in my argument even pulled a quote directly from the VN as substantial evidence. When you say, "He did it on purpose," you admit to the absence of hysteria in Leo; thus, you raise my point across. He did NOT have the power to control the results of his actions (consequences), but he DID have control over non-action (pre-causation). He made his choices. And sure, he attempted to fix the problem he created, but we can already see how that turned out at the end of his route. I want to believe our boys made it despite failing to get onto the [redacted for spoilers]. Remember, they heard sirens - cops for sure, medics hopefully. 

Counter-question 1: You honestly believe Leo intentionally meant to hurt anyone...?

Counter-question 2: So you wouldn't eliminate an unknown threat in the pitch black of night hunching over your loved one without a second thought...? 

Counter-question 3: How does he not realize the situation if just moments ago he haphazardly attempted first aid...?

Bruh. You should have your dark thoughts checked out or at least reread the route.

Wow that was a long explanation heh i understand tho,thank you.Mind blowing fact I didn't know that Echo,Pueblo and payton is a real place but payton is layton but in echo version is well payton also the lake is real i wanna go there heh....anyway again,thx for the explanation i understand it well and also to shade, ciao thats all i need to know now..