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no worries---length.  (sometimes I do long posts too!  lol) 

Haven't tried Hooker run in 5.3-----maybe I will.  

SO, if no COOK  (class)  do you still use cooking?    [1 more debatable thing that can still take a *LOT* of time early on!]
SO MUCH is a TIME/RESOURCE usage Question    (FORGE for example,  can still take 2 char over 20h!!! )

Upgrades----Not Forge?      [MC bedroom not really helpful---can still only date 1/day;  Maybe w 2+ Hookers?]
You did mention Chars----1 -> 2 is cheap, but F2-> F3 & F3-> F4 are costly,  So i Assume you have mult char on (Magic/Iron) Wood?    {can't get those from easy Dun] ---I think it's  10/  for just  1 Char  F2 ->  F3;

Quest----YES,  more info would B helpful!  Esp since you mentioned you skip some?!?  
(maybe you skip the "Impossible" ones  ;-)     [Just from memory,   there's 2-3+ Quests w items you *CANNOT* buy!  (med,  I think?)  So??? ]

[until you get 500 PTS,  you only get 1/Guild/Week, so...]

Especially RELEVANT:   
1)  any *MED* quests    [D1 only easy]   & ...
2) anything you SKIP     [not all Quest items R avail to buy,  so maybe you skip what I would CRAFT???  Eg,  "Magic Cloth"  etc]

How many char did you upgrade?     (upgrades again!)   ESP  F2->F3, or F3 -> F4   [both 10M  or 10 Ir wood + 500g
oh, & *WHEN* !   (D21's a *LOT* DIFFERENT than 1st 14 days!  )

"....so anybody with those stats can become a decent fighter/mage whatever you want."-----Mage-----Maybe.  FIGHTER,  NO.  
Fighters depend heavily upon Physics F,----  you really need  F4+   to make a good one.

Mages  (Daisy or other)   mostly depend upon your *STAFF*  [luck?]     & if no crafting,  mostly a buy/drop issue.  (luck)
Mace---I assume u mean "club"?   (clubs & swords,  but no "mace") 

lol!   Even the "skip"     makes a difference long-term!   [NO cook,  FEW upgrade,  etc]   

Appren  + Wits,  But I assume you use Scholar instead since you mentioned heals?    [Daisy ain't no Elf,  so no Druid....]
Do you have more than 1 Thief?    [checking classes that give Wits Bonus]     Eng  Req  500+ pts;
I assume Trainer is out  [Req  Phy  40]  ?  ;
"Alchemist"  must also be bought   (500+ Pts)  

F4's  or F5's R great----but again,  *LUCK*    [sometimes can't find them early,  so either WAIT, or buy poor stats... ;-( ]

Getting more than 1 char   (unless you Train --a *LOT*)   to  60+ Wits by  D20  is pretty hard  in my XP;
How do u ?     (Make them both thieves?  )       [Gr F won't help here,  only Wits F]

Training [20 days] @ 1/day  =  20   ---->>   That's at most  2/Char if 10 char;       (actual inc depends on your Charm F & their F)
or,   do you only train a few?


I Should do a Hooker run & let you know what Q's I get.   (but if takes too long/  Time/Grind,   no benefit   vs    other "methods")  
B4  D21???

PS hopefully fixed all my typo-----very tired & eyes R buggy...