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Teophilo2 years ago(+1)

I see your point and I agree with you. Perhaps I didn’t explain myself. I believe the rules prohibit content that “promotes or participate” in sexism or racism. By “participate” I think it means “take part”, actively involving for a cause, not just mentioning a topic for educational purposes (that is something different, it’s not actually advocating or promoting discrimination, it’s the opposite: educating to not discriminate).

It’s clear when a game is just depicting discrimination to tell a personal story, and when a game is presenting sexual abuse for the gratification of the viewers. We all know the difference when we see it, right?

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Mango Scribble2 years ago (2 edits) (+2)

> By “participate” I think it means “take part”, actively involving for a cause, not just mentioning a topic for educational purposes

I had the same definition in mind for the term "participate". I'm not talking about works that only mention sexism or racism from an offhand remark, there are works that go extensively into detail. To sufficiently tell its story, a game may need to "get down and dirty" with its imagery and scenes. To Kill a Mockingbird had many openly racist quotes and violence stemming from racism. If we strictly enforce the rule that prohibits content that takes part in openly showing racism then we are also banning works like To Kill a Mockingbird.


> It’s clear when a game is just depicting discrimination to tell a personal story, and when a game is presenting sexual abuse for the gratification of the viewers.

You are right that it is clear, but currently, the rule you quoted only prohibits the games from participating in sexism and racism, the rule makes no distinction between depicting this content for the gratification of the viewer and for a different purpose so enforcing it strictly will result in excessive censorship.

I recommend the proposed change to an extensive revision of the rules rather than excessive censorship.

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Teophilo2 years ago

I couldn’t agree more with you. I for sure support your suggestion that a revision of the rules is needed. That is probably the best solution that avoids the two extremes (either excessive censorship like you mentioned or not enforcing the rules at all, both equally bad I’d say).

So, moving forward, how can we ask for a revision of the rules?

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Mango Scribble2 years ago (1 edit) (+1)

We could make a thread on the feedback forum section to propose the change to the Itch.io ToS (and also better enforcement). Hopefully, we can form a constructive discussion around this issue with the mods and also other Itch.io users on how to modify the rules to properly single out problematic submissions. 

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Teophilo2 years ago

That sounds good to me. Thank you.

Would you like to start the thread? I feel I tend to sound a bit more leaning towards censorship whereas the way you expressed your opinion  seemed balanced to me.

If you prefer I take the initiative I’ll create the post tomorrow morning.

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Mango Scribble2 years ago

I'm sorry but I procrastinated too much and have a ton of work to catch up for the next few days :(

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Teophilo2 years ago

No worries! I just created the thread. You can find the link here.

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