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But in what way do you compare it this end?
It is a small creator whom is trying to do his best to produce a game that we can enjoy. About the sensitivity it is indeed better that the creator makes it more enjoyable, but it is giving and taking. The game is short and free after all.

So if you find it boring to do it for yourself or to find a way to make it work, then don't criticize on it. Rather give feedback. Because criticism deflates creator and you don't help him with it but feedback inspires them and helps them to make them better. Don't get me wrong. You should definitely share your opinion.

Slender Nightmare2 years ago

man, what you said is no sense and it isn't an excuse, it is ridiculous, if a game is bad it is bad!

if you are a small creator, i understand it, but it doesn't mean that if you are a small creator i am forced to say that it is good, if the game is bad it is bad!

if the final doesn't work and it is bland, i have to say it because that's what the game is!

just stop being angy for a criticism that is right about your game, and try to improve your game developing making a better new game in future with my advices, that's better for you.

and no, every game, every thing has to be criticized, because criticisms helps creator to make them better.

if you can't understand it, that's not my problem, i am free to say every criticism i want to say.

Slender Nightmare2 years ago

criticisms are feedback

Slender Nightmare2 years ago

so? if it is free it have to be horrible? that is no sense, and people should stop saying stupid things like that, haha

i saw games that are free and that are so good, so what you said doesn't make sense.

Useless Mr. Moons2 years ago (1 edit)

First of, please do understand the difference between criticism and feedback. if you don't than do your research, because they are not the same at all. you are not helping the creator by saying it is a bad game or it is bland or it sucks. you don't' help them at all. if YOU don't understand that, then there is no reason to argue about because I won't get it through your thick skull.

I am not angry about criticism my friend. It is just the wrong way to help these creators. I have seen normal feedback about a game that is bad and it different then you bring it. If everything has to be criticized then also take yourself into consideration. I am giving you feedback about that.

Besides it is not even my game, it just don't like the way you said it. As you said it: I am free to say every "criticism" and so i am doing the same.

And this: 'and try to improve your game developing making a better new game in future with my advices, that's better for you'
There is no advice at all, none at all.

As I said before. I appreciate your opinion. I do hope you know that. We are just discussing and arguing :)

Slender Nightmare2 years ago

criticism and advice are almost the same thing, but if you think it isn't, it's ok, it's your opinion, but anyways, i helped you, i said you to improve the sensitivity of the view movement by making it much more slower, and to do for the new games a final much more epic and cool, i helped you.

and i never said it is a bad game, i just said that the final is bad and bland, pay much more attention on what the people say next time, ok?

Slender Nightmare2 years ago

a criticism is almost equal to a feedback, a criticism can be also helpful, a criticism can be "it is bad" but it can also be "it was bad, but you can fix it by doing this and this", so no, criticisms and feedback are almost the same, but as i said, if you don't think that they are the same, it's ok, its your opinion.

Useless Mr. Moons2 years ago

You should also pay a bit more attention okay? I just said to you that it is not my game. I never said you said its a bad game. I meant it as an example the same as you did " if the game is bad it is bad"

In the world of criticism and feedback it's a world of difference. I see what you mean by it and I do understand what you mean. But not everybody else does.
What I am trying to tell you the whole time (I approached you in the wrong way, clearly) is that if you want to help these people by giving them advise about their game then do so. But then actually do! Give them solutions, idea's whatsoever.

Let me get deeper into in yeah?
Criticism is focused on highlighting there faults and not giving solutions. Saying "the end is really bad..." is not giving a solution. You can clearly do that because you did it about the sensitivity part. Right?

Feedback in contrary is actually giving a solution. I would you like the see this I like that at the end, etc etc.

Feedback can also be used in a good way, feedback is more constructive. Criticism can't and is more destructive.
If you say "two criticisms " a creator immediately thinks that its very bad, by using the actual word feedback it will be less aggressive. I know you mean the best for these creators. right?

Something else. I gave you an idea about the sensitivity but you discarded it pretty quickly and btw everyone can adjust their sensitivity.
A lot of other games do like a bit higher sensitivity. But still good that you said that it should be bit lower. Every opinion counts and I agree with that.

Overall, try to bring your "criticism" in a different way. These creators will take you way more serious. Same as you do at your work at your company.

Again I appreciate that you want to help them and that you want to be critical, because that is what they need, but bring it I a different otherwise you will do it for nothing and you won't help them.

Slender Nightmare2 years ago

you just didn't read anything that i said..., you are continuing saying the same things that you said before, i said "if a game is bad it is bad", but i said that when i talked about you that are a small creator, so don't say casual things that i said before it doesn't make senso, and no, i said that the final was bad because it wasn't epic, so i helped you, but you just are not understanding, and no, a criticism is also a feedback, because a criticism can be for example "this game is bad' but it can be for example "the game is bad but you can fix it by doing this and this", but it is a criticism anyways, so criticisms are feedback and a feedback is a criticism, feedback is osmething you say to another person, so it can be a criticism too, and what is wrote in the internet not everytime is true, you have to understand in what case the internet article is talking, but listen, i am getting boring talking about this so just stop it, i just tried helping you, but you are so childish that you are not even understanding that i said what you can fix and i didn't just said "this game is bad", because i said what is wrong with it, so i don't want to waste my time here, bye.

Useless Mr. Moons2 years ago

Of course I am repeating what I say. Because you are to stubborn to understand. Again you are not reading what I am saying. AGAIN. The thing about the internet is so weak to say. You might have a lot of discussions with people in that way. But I educated myself well enough! I don't have to say that because it is not necessary at all, but I fell like it because it's needed for you to know.

You know what. Why making a discussion personal? There is absolutely no reason to call me childish. But let's make it more personal and aggressive. The fact that you are not educated it enough to understand everything that I have been saying to you is not my fault. You completely and I MEAN completely missed the point. So far that you can't even see it anymore.

The heck man. I agreed with you. The BIG FAT POINT that I tried to make to you is that you only should bring it differently. Lets agree to disagree about the whole criticism and have our opinions about it. Clearly you are not open to see it from another perspective. But I do know what you mean. Kuddos for you my friend

I've seen previous comments of you and you already had some problems with it. It kind of had to do with being angry pretty quickly huh? Right?

I actually just wanted to be nice to you, I wanted to show some interest about what you mostly play and what you mostly do. I just wanted to have a nice normal argument with you but you come across so freaking angry that this is not possible. I am sorry. Oh am I wasting you time?? Awh I had such a good time. Thank you for the nice discussion and irritations to each other :) We should smile more and have some laughs.

If you would like to talk about something else or actually share ideas you know where to find me. I'm open for it 👍
After all I am not mad or an angry person on the internet like some others...

I will see you around.

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