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I wasn't excusing Lipstor's behavior in these situations. You do have a point that a public forum for a NSFW futanari focused erotic video game is not a great place to mention suicidal tendencies. That sort of topic is difficult for many people and can create a negative mood. Topics of suicide are best discussed with personal friends, family, or professionals in private environments. Directly dealing with your claim, "I don't think a bad life is a reason for one to hurt others easily. . ." I don't believe a bad life is an excuse for hurting others either, and I wasn't trying to claim otherwise. As for your claim of "I bet there are some more miserable people in the world than him,so could they do harm to others?" How miserable a person is is hard to quantify, and at any given moment someone could have it worse than someone else. I don't think that argument really adds anything to this topic. Of course, if this was just a rhetorical question, then I get it, but it's hard to convey that in text and can lead to misinterpretation. I have to object to your claim that "nobody cares whether a person is sick or not . . ." I feel that not taking into account that someone is sick is refusing to acknowledge a possible reason or variable for their behavior, which can lead to a loss of context. Let me make it clear that I do not believe that someone should be absolved of responsibility even if they do have some sort of sickness, though. I must also object to your claim that nobody cares about ". . . what a person really thinks." Not caring about what a person really thinks, and not seeking the explanation behind their reasoning seems like a large deal of what has spurred on this conflic to begin with. I've been saying that a breakdown of communication is what seems to be happening here and that not caring what someone really think could be a major factor of that.

I would also like to address the character of this "wind" or Wind blowing on summer individual as well. I have seen them post quite nasty things in regards to Lipstor. I'll show the post I had cited earlier as an example.

You stated yourself that you ". . . don't think a bad life is a reason for one to hurt others . . ." However, you admit that you believe that Wind was in a bad mood yesterday. So if I understand your logic correctly, it should not be right for Wind to say that Lipstor was supposed to have committed suicide and that they believe that nobody likes or loves Lipstor. I'm not just saying its Wind who should stop bullying, and I don't care who started the bullying because I believe everyone needs to stop with the name calling and taking things out of context. Everyone here is equally responsible for upholding a civil and organized discussion. In fact, discussion should mainly be focused on Futaken Valley itself. The only reason I've been addressing these drama issues is because I believe that the drama itself is affecting Futaken Valley's status and its developer Mofu. Of course, it's ultimately Mofu who will let us know how or if the conflicts have been affecting them, after all they are capable of expressing their own thoughts.

I'd like to ask you another question, Yamaho. What is your purpose for being involved with this game's comments section and community?

I mean no disrespect towards you and I respect that you've given me your time, Yamaho. I do appreciate that you are explaining your position, knowledge, and insight of this situation.

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Lipstor, it is possible that Yamaho isn't lying when they say that they have been " . . . browsing this forum for a long time . . ." You can browse a comment thread without having an account. So even with a 10 day old account, it is possible that Yamoho has been reading the comments without having an account for over half a year. As for Yamaho and Wind talking in their language to one another without having had prior interaction visible on this site, I don't have much I can say there. I'd need to find or recieve some more examples to come to any conclusion. Unfortunately it's getting late for me and I'm beginning to lose focus, so I may be heading to bed shortly.

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Lipstor, since this game doesn't currently require payment to download it, you can actually just download it from the official game page here on Itch.io without having an account. I just did that myself, and I reccommend you should try so as well to confirm.

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I have no way of knowing for sure where Yamaho has been on the internet before browsing this forum. This forum is public and requires no actual Itch.io account to be able to read every thread in this forum. You only need an Itch.io account to be able to post messages yourself. It's likely that Yamaho just found this game while browsing Itch.io, that's how I found this game. While it's true that Yamaho has only just started actually posting in this forum, you can read the forum without commenting or even having an account. Yamaho themself has admitted to having been " . . . following this forum for several months . . ." and that they ". . . applied for account recently. . ." They even explain that they " . . . will often read the comments for knowing the possible content of game . . ." Which they said they did before they applied for an Itch.io account. I have yet to see any lead that indicates that they're connected to the piracy forum you've mentioned. I doesn't mean that there isn't one, it just means I haven't found it yet if it does exist. It's not easy parsing all this info and providing quotes, so it's possible I have failed to notice some information. Sorry if I've misinterpreted what you meant.

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Oh my god, what is wrong with him- also i'd say he's Eduu (if that's even going to help on anything-) that i saw on other posts while browsing further (haven't seen everything yet), but not sure-

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I've only see you reply to Wind a couple times in your chat history, so that backs up your claim of not knowing Wind. However, since alts are easy to make, it's possible that you have created alt accounts and talked with Wind before. However, I find that unlikely since looking through Wind's comments a lot of them are talking to Mofu or Lipstor, and not really any other users. However, I don't think it's wise for you to comment on Wind's posts in any regard. It seems they've let passion get the better of them and the insults they are posting are clear violations of the Itch.io community guidlines. They add nothing to the conversation and contain very few valid criticisms. Even if there were valid criticisms, adding insults does nothing but undermind your reputation and argument. That is why I've tried to be as respectful as I can when addressing others here. You've made some good arguments yourself, Yamaho, but I can't disregard the insults you've slipped into your arguments against Lipstor. In one of your other responses to me you even claim that Lipstor " . . . can't understand human language . . ." which is just a blatant falsehood that adds nothing to your argument. I already know you don't like Lipstor, that insult is doing nothing but evoking Lipstor and inviting more drama. So if you want this comment section to be ". . . a game forum, not a toilet." Then I reccommend you refrain from insults and instead offer criticism with valid evidence to back up your claims.

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Thank you Yamaho. I'm afraid I'm not really here to persuade Lipstor to change their behavior. I'm just trying to gather viewpoints, context, and facts around this situation so that everyone can make informed thoughts on what has been happening here. Providing this may help others, including Lipstor, understand what issues may be causing this drama. It's a lot of work for something I really probably shouldn't even care about or even gotten involved in, but oh well. I guess my curiosity got the better of me. Regardless, I do want to see this game succeed, and making sure the community doesn't tear itself apart should help in that goal.

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