-Aloys 2
C80 &C81
It is not just reverse magic, but it is more like ‘if Aloys didn’t go to the mountain to see if Noch’ possibility has become reality. Simply put, I think the power that Noch used in the quote and other instances is more akin to making any events that could happen become what actually happens. (Or maybe just the ability to move things very quickly.)
C82
Since eyes are a window to someone’s soul, Noch is implying that Aloys' soul is similar to that of a voidborn might have.
C83
This sequence is similar to Alessia's dream but without the eyes. This possibly implies that the ‘nun’ in Alessia’s dream could be a voidborn.
C84
This brings up another question: is someone in Aloys’ family a voidborn? To make it possible of Aloys to be part voidborn, someone has to have conceived with a voidborn in the first place.
Or it might be possible that the Demiurge is actually part voidborn? If nobody in Aloys’ family conceived with a voidborn, then it would make sense for Demiurge to be part voidborn to make this possible. (Since his mother is an aeon, that would make his father a voidborn.)
C85
Souls don’t exist in the void, making it seem that voidborn are without a soul. Yet, he compared Aloys and voidborn as similar when looking into his eyes, so this could mean that Aloys doesn’t have a soul or that he almost doesn’t have one.
C86
So it’s still possible to make an Army of Neruses?
Jokes aside, it would imply that mortals, descendants, and shapeshifters aren’t unique. It would be possible to create the same person even if nothing about them, the flesh, nerves, or souls, comes from the original. Someone like Noch can easily create clones of anyone! Making it possible that after the world ends, Noch can easily recreate Aloys in the void. (Assuming that he is capable and has the ‘materials’ needed.)
C87
What dreams does the voidborn have? Dreams seem to play an important role in the story, so this might mean something.
C88
How did Noch enter from the void?
There are currently only two breaches that happened in the story which occurred in the first and second wars, making it seem that Noch slips without anyone noticing. It is possible to have other ways to travel from the void and the Demiurge’s domain, but there is no evidence to support it. (I don’t think other breaches had occurred since the Obli would have taken advantage of it.)
C89
This quote implies that something is going to happen after this memory, yet, there is nothing in Chapter 1 or any of the current memories so far to suggest anything like this. It makes it seem that this would come up later on in the story.
(The murder case of Chapter 1 may be the bomb, but the quote implies both Aloys and Noch will experience something, not just Aloys.)
C90
Dreams seem to play an important role. Just like Aloys, Neru had one in the Prologue, so maybe these two dreams might be more than just dreams.
[Aloys encounter with the nun.]
This whole scenario is weird, but what is so mysterious about the event is the identity of the nun and the place itself.
It could be that the nun is one of the archons since they can somehow change the church itself, yet, I couldn’t stop thinking about the possibility that this is somehow the older age of Alessia. (No real evidence on Alessia, but kinda want to say it somewhere in this post.)
C91
Two things: this show that Noch can somehow time travel to the future and manipulate the space around him to travel to the abbey without actually being there since Noch cannot leave his mountain even when he wants to help out Aloys.
We can see this event from the other perspective in Chapter 1, yet, this part of the story with Noch and Aloys should have happened before the events of Chapter 1. It implies that Noch can travel to the future and somehow manipulate the space around him to be at that place without leaving his mountain. Another interesting thing that Noch implies is that fate doesn’t bind Voidborns. Maybe Noch is giving Aloys the illusion of choice, but I wouldn’t think Noch would lie to Aloys like that.
C92
Assassination seems to be not as uncommon with this type of work, but maybe this one might be different. It is also possible that Aloy’s brother is significant in the story. (It might be that he is already been introduced in the story in Chapter 1 as Josue.)
C93
Obli made a similar connection that Aloys comparing the universe to the ocean, making me think this is how Roddorod wants the world to be interpreted.
The Pleroma is the sky.
The void is the ocean.
Based on what the characters say, the Demiurge’s realm could be a living creature in the ocean or the ocean floor itself.
C94
This is quite weird. Knowing that both the burned man and Pyr are watching the memories, it would make sense that either one of them could have made this comment. This comment feels like what Pyr would say, yet I wouldn’t think he has the power to skip through a scene like this. Although true, I wouldn't think that the burned man would make such a comment on Aloys and Noch since he never made such a comment on other characters in the story.
C95
It makes it seem that Obli, and by extension descendent and maybe shapeshifters, are also made with Samuel's soul like mortal souls.
-Milkshake
C96
In my previous post about Alessia, I connected the idea that Alessia’s ability to see memories in her dreams, her ability to see souls, and the timeline itself are all connected to the Chimera. The timeline still appears even though Alessia doesn’t seem to have the ability to see people’s memories anymore after the murder case. This either means that my Chimera theory is wrong or that, for some reason, the Chimera just doesn’t allow Alessia to see memories anymore. (Maybe Alessia can only see other memories through her dream when they are close to her.)
C97
Aloys does talk about Rel in Aloys 2, but the comment itself isn’t enough to tell if Aloys know the connection between Rel and Alessia. It is possible that Noch told it to Aloys, but I would think that Aloys would use that information during the investigation to try to throw off the tracks during the murder case. (Like putting some cryptic information about Rell that both Alessia and Bitey don't know about around the Abbey.)
C98
This is weird since, looking at Bitey’s family, the blessing seems to be very prevalent. Bitey, Alvaro, and Alvaro’s son Enrique all have the blessing, yet, when looking at Rel’s family Alessia and David didn’t inherit the dog-like appearance. (Rel appearance might be explained with a potion or transformation like Ben or Remigio but being a blessed human seems to only apply to humans who were changed by one of the seven instead of a transformation change.)
The Burned Man
The burned man is a character we see most predominantly in Chapter 2, but this isn’t the first time the burned man appeared in the story. The first time we witness the burned man is in the Prologue when an unknown character, not lightly to be Pyr, has a one-sided conversation with him [A10]. We then continue to see him in Chapter 1, where he wakes up from the memory of the murder case and escapes from Pyr. The burned man is an important part of the story since the story is witnessed from his perspective.
So this raises the question: who is the burned man? Well, the story does give us some things to consider.
[The burned man's first interaction with Pyr.]
In the first interaction, the burned man had with Pyr, many things can be concluded.
One, it is very unlikely for the burned man to not have existed before since Pyr laughs it off as not an option for it to be true. It is possible that Pyr was misdirecting the burned man from this conclusion. Yet, his reaction after seeing Pyr’s name indicated that he has some prior knowledge suggesting that he had existed before.
Second, the burned man can be one of the characters in the story.
Third, the burned man hasn’t shown up yet in the story.
But then, this next quote does concern me.
C99
This doesn’t necessarily mean to disagree with the assumption made, however, it does cast a bit of a shadow on the memories themselves. This could hint that the story is all false, or maybe skewed from the truth, to make the burned man believe in a lie.
Yet assuming that the second theory is true, who can the burned man be?
-Neru
There is so much evidence to suggest that the burned man is Neru.
1. C100
When looking down at his skin, the burned man thought he saw that he was covered in black fur. This would suggest that the burned man expected to have some fur instead of the burned skin he has right now.
2. [Prologue where the unknown person talks]
In the Prologue, the comments from the unknown person suggest that they regret putting the burned man through something after watching the Prologue. This suggests that the burned man has some connection with the characters shown in the Prologue, like Neru or Shax.
3.[Prologue evidence]
The ability that Neru has during the Prologue, being able to talk to Pyr even though Pyr wasn't in the story, could be the result of the burned man reliving as Neru. (Since he is in automatic mode, he could be seeing through the character's point of view instead of how he is watching it during Chapter 2.
4.(First person with Neru.)
As said before, the story is told in either the first-person or third-person perspective. When the story is told from Neru’s perspective, the story uses the first-person perspective while other characters are used in the third person. This could be because the burned man is watching the story, replaying the events that he went through.
5.C101
This suggests that the experiences that are happening to the burned man are something he has experienced during the time of the story. Similarly, during this time Neru has accidentally flown into and is stuck in the void. Although we don’t know much about the void, the burned man experience could be the experience that Neru had during his time in the void, making it seem that the burned man is Neru.
What’s also interesting is that after the quote, when the first part of Obli 2 starts, it uses the third-person perspective.
But there are some things against it.
1. (First person with Shax/Obli.)
Neru is not the only character in the story that uses the first-person perspective. It is shown that Shax/Obli also uses the first-person perspective, making it seem that the burned man is not only Neru.
2. (Doesn’t remember that he is Neru.)
Even after showing some memories of Neru, the burned man didn’t seem to remember that he was Neru. This can mean that he either has forgotten that he was Neru, isn't Neru, or that there are not enough memories to trigger him to remember.
-The burned man is a combination of Neru and Shax/Obli
If the burned man isn’t Neru, the next thing that comes to mind is that the burned man is somehow a combination of Neru and Obli.
1. Everything about the theory of Neru also applies to this.2. Explains why both Neru and Shax/Obli use the first-person perspective.
Counter:
1. There is not enough evidence to suggest this theory. It's pretty much just an idea without much evidence to support it.
-Burned man is Samuel. (Wild Theory)
1. (Everyone is connected.)
Everything that is experienced is from Demiurge's domain. Demiurge's souls form all mortals, shapeshifters, and descendants' souls, which explains why, even after watching the memories, the burned man doesn't recall who he is since he has to watch EVERYTHING or watch his own perspective when he is the Demiurge.
2. (First and third-person perspective explanation.)
The first-person and third-person perspectives make sense since the Demiurge is both not them but also them at the same time.
Things that go against the theory.
1. (Fur thing.)
Obli 2 shows that the Demiurge is a rock monster, so it wouldn’t make sense for the burned man to think that he has fur in the first place.
Besides the burned man's identity, there are some interesting things that I would like to discuss.
C102
What confuses me is how the burned man sees these memories. The burned man experiences these events as a different entity, watching the memories happen as a side person instead of watching it from their perspective, even though Obli uses the first-person perspective during this memory. It could be that when the burned man is unconscious, he is experiencing from their perspective, but when he is conscious, he is experiencing the memories from the sideline.
Which could explain this next quote.
C103
Even though Obli uses the first-person perspective in Obli 2, it would seem that the burned man couldn’t see Obli’s dream or interaction with the Demiurge. This could mean that the burned man couldn’t see any dream sequence, but this couldn’t be the case since he did talk about Alessia’s dream before. This brings up another question: what can the burned man really see during these memories? Can the burned man read the monologue these characters have during the memory? Is he experiencing the same story as we are? The only thing I can think of is that the burned man can read the monologue, but only in the Prologue and Chapter 1. Only when he is unconscious does he experience the feelings and thoughts of the character, but when the burned man is conscious, he doesn’t experience them at all, only being able to observe. Yet it is hard to tell if this is the case.
