dating Blake
Does someone of the creators have the intention to make dating Blake possible?
It's a pity that you can only have sex with him. You can be gentle when you give him a "massage" but he only reacts once on that and it has no effect on the "connection" you have with him.
So I'd really like if there would be more possibility to interact with him - ideally two or three quests to win his heart.
"a good way to check if an NPC will be datable is to..."
I don't understand.
Blake - loaded savegame of day 160 - is in the relationship tab (no heart). But neither Gunnar nor "Cocky Guard" do appear in that relationship list - I'm pretty sure my Player Character met him in the very beginning at the "Track". The reason that he's not in the list - at that time - may be that my PC rejected him for quite a while.
On the other hand side Julian (owner of the Inn in NC) and Vicoria (River's Cave) are in the list. I guess both are not and probably will never be datable.
However, the game lists Gunnar when I load a savegame of day 194. Both savegames (day 160 and 194) are made on version 0.47.5.Extra.
So if Gunnar is datable in 0.47.5.Extra then shouldn't he have been in the list when I met him first?
I originally thought that any NPC that can be interacted with (more than fight) appears in that list when you met it for the first time. That would make sense since showing the value of "Like" and if there is a heart or not for any NPC might be useful. Doesn't it have an influence on dialogue options and events? However, Gunnar and Garuik were not added when my PC met them first so it does not work that way either.
Now, I might have misunderstood your reply.
the Gunnar thing might be because you don't know his name and the book only records characters with names. (if this can be disproven that's my bad, but I can't exactly test this yet.) that should be why he showed up later because you found out his name is 0.47.5.EXTRA so he showed up, also on Garuik I believe he will show up eventually but he hasn't yet because he doesn't have any events to increase like with him so it doesn't need to be tracked yet, but since he is a guest character, he will eventually have an option for relations depending on how the guest writer writes him.
on Blake what do you mean "no heart"? I don't believe he has a heart event yet so he can't have one. also, Viccoria will prolly be someone you can date but that's a lot later since the game is currently focusing on male characters atm since that's the focus for romantic and sexual scenes and such at the moment. Hyao wrote on the main page it's focused on homosexual content but will not be limited to that, so if a woman character is in there, she should have a route eventually. like Rose. Julian though just doesn't have much stuff at the moment, but he will have a route eventually since he is in the book, any character in it will have a route eventually as I stated before it's just, they sometimes take a minute to show up in special cases, like Garuik isn't in it yet due to not having much in game yet and Gunnar you need his name before he's added.
also yes it does influence dialog because certain things when you speak with them change, like with Bernard when you have no hearts or any like he just casually greets you, but when you have 4 hearts and like max like he smiles and greets you more affectionately, however not every encountered character is recorded in there if you can interact with out of fights, like how Khalagor isn't in there yet after we fought we then fought him, and most merchants are just random merchants we just speak to and don't add to the book.
"the Gunnar thing might be because you don't know his name and the book only records characters with names"
In that case the book shows "Cocky Guard" ;-) Same applies to "Shopkeeper".
"Viccoria will prolly be someone you can date but that's a lot later"
I have no intention to make my PC date her. I did only mention her because she is displayed in the Relations list. Well, I might date her if she can help me fight the Nameless - this is a RPG after all so my PC can date her if I make him do it (and if it becomes possible of course). I didn't try but it looked like I could have make him start something with Othra although he's gay.
No offense to anyone interested in the game but I'm perfectly fine if the content stays mainly-gay!!!
"Julian though just doesn't have much stuff at the moment, but he will have a route eventually"
What does "route" mean in this context? Quest line? Or being datable? Julian is the Inn owner in Northcrest, right? If it's "datable", take your time - there are more interesting characters that appear earlier in the game. :-)
So there are characters that can be dated and some can not. I thought you ment that I can tell the difference from the Relations list - NPC is in the list: datable, not in the list: no date possible.
As you said in the reply above, hearts only appear when the "heart event" happened. So when my PC just meets Bernard and Blake at the beginning of a game they are both in the list. How do I know that only one of them is datable and that it is Bernard?
Please, there is no need to add all the merchants if they do nothing else but buy or sell stuff. At some point it might become useful to have the information what kind of merchants are located in a place - maybe in the map - but that is not needed yet.
omg I checked the Gunnar thing I completely forgot it did that. thank you for pointing it out, I'm now uncertain why they wouldn't show up in the relationship list. Sorry about that one.
on Viccoria that's fair, most people play this for the gay stuff and Viccoria is not the gay stuff lol, but on mentioning the nameless and her makes me wonder if that is actually a possibility, maybe we can bond with her, and she can tell us about him if he's like a famous demon or just use demonic magic to assist us if we do fight him!
also, it's definitely not going to offend anyone saying you're ok with it staying mainly gay since most people who even mention wanting more female content to get disliked to hell lol. I also agree but irrelevant lol
I use route to mean romantic path/story quests interchangeably, in this one I mean romantic path. plus, the earlier guys have actually been getting a lot of love so the take your time bit on Julian is already going on XD
on the datable or not, that is pretty much exactly what I meant just not that you can tell if they have a heart event. if they are on the list, they should EVENTUALLY have a romance path. that is what I intended to say in the beginning, but the phrasing didn't say eventually and can be misinterpreted. sorry about that.
the part about how we tell who is datable already and who isn't is that we can't. unless you read the devlogs from the beginning to the current updates, but Hyao is working on a system to alert us in the relationship tab on who can get hearts and who can't yet so that's a feature upcoming but not yet in game. you can also ask in the comments if a certain character has routes or check out the fan made guide by Ben Dover, it's REALLY large and has everything in game already in it, so if you're ok with some spoilers you can use that to check who has a heart event and who doesn't!
last thing, yeah adding in a romance route for EVERY merchant would be excessive, I was just using them as examples of characters we speak to and don't fight, but also don't add to the book or have a chance for romance as far as I'm aware. the other points are also true, it's not needed but when the game is large enough a map or something with the merchants' locations written would be useful! but later as we already can tell all the merchant's locations rather easy in the latest versions lol.
check out the fan made guide by Ben Dover, it's REALLY large and has everything in game already in it
Very good. I hope it shows me the whole conversation the player has with the Nameless when I choose what I desire most (before and after clicking the answer). Because it's impossible to read that conversation once more in the game...
But maybe there's nothing worth to remember, in that case trying to find out what he specificly said would be Love's Labour's Lost.
