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Hey.,

I greatly appreciate the detailed feedback.

The reason for it being "only" a seven month project is, that I did not want the issues my first game would invariably have drag on into an ever more complex unsalvageable design trainwreck.

I rather intend to take the items learned ( add or improve gallery mode, user guidance, UI control, ...) into my next game from the start.

Also, I wanted to improve on the overall visual style (proportion adjustment for characters to 1:6, cleaner renders, ...) and did not want to rerender the early scenes My asset repository was a mess in the end, couldn't find some of the early stuff any more...

So hopefully this will all go into a better second game.

I am glad that you enjoyed the game despite its shortcomings.

y.v.

Ponydragon1 year ago

Maybe you misunderstood. In comparison to many other projects I looked at, the tower game is polished - in only 7 months. I think your coding prowess is showing. Of course there is always room for improvement, something to nitpick over. But that goes for finished AAA titles as well...

The only thing that really irked me, was the Madame in the brothel. That she refused her special services, even when Grex was king. Maybe I missed something, maybe it is unfinished business. But most of the other stuff I thought are unfinished, had their uses. Like the soap. I read that afterwards in the wt, that you can use it in the bath. When I bought it in the shop (never found the barrel), I thought it would be gifts for Gwynn or the Queen. And then I thought I could imbue and swap them, similar to the glitter items, but when fetching you can not insert glitter/soap. So I thought it was unfinished. I even tried to improve the plugs and the dildo by combining 10 of them, but you can only combine scraps and building materials iirc.

At least your messy data structure left me with all the images to look at in the game folder. So I found out what gallery I missed, and since I did not find Madame, I think that service button is a red herring or unfinished business. And when I saw princess in the milking contraption my first thought was unfinished business as well (saw the sreenshots with Princess "Aurora"), since you cannot interact with her anymore. But of course, she just needed to see someone else get milked and wanted it done properly to her. So typical ;-)

Also the Art is fine. Especially stuff like the textures on Gwynns thighs. Or Princesses nipples and her slight belly, very sexy. 3d art is tricky. 2d is easier in that respect. You go into uncanny valley pretty easily, if you try to be too realistic. And the nitpicker in me says, there was a certain lack of money shots, as Grex conveniently likes to come inside.

PS One of the first words I tried in the mirror was gold. Funny that this obvious should be missing from the wt. And when I got power, it got a lot easier, almost felt like cheating.

yv07511 year ago

The Madame indeed is unfinished. I left the special services dialogue in there as "ambience", as I decided to not put in stuff, that would get me banned from patreon or ith. But it could be a coding hook for an extension pack... ;)

But, it could also be inderstood in a way, that she isn't available for Goblins.

And "gold" was too easy (like all the names of the actual gems), so i slighty riddle-yfied it ;)

Ponydragon1 year ago

Uhm, "gold" does work, so any riddles might be in a different version. Oh, "riches" does work too, if you meant that.

The paypal pseudo monopoly needs to go away. They are the main reason for this stupidity concerning artifically created images. They have arbitrary content restrictions, a thing a payment processor should not have.

GoldenRainbow555551 year ago

Having noticed that bit of unfinished business, I would like to add to this list. From the barrel, I have found the reigns and the spiked collar, and I have gotten to "free play" after becoming the Goblin King (I became the goblin king after sending to demonology studies twice) I would like to state that there is so much unfinished content and optional ending miss-outs that it really only makes sense to follow through to at least v1 completion.

There is a mention in the castle of expeditions, which could make for a wonderful Act VII intro, as well as the mention of a training academy for the maids, which could easily be tied in to the institute to form a "royal academy integration" in cooperation with both the institute and the madame, who would employ and fund students/graduates/trainees. This would also be a good tie-in for the spiked collar and pony-girls, along with the demonology outfit research (why is that option even there if you don't plan on using it?) As part of an agreement with the institute (perhaps a diplomacy quest or act could unlock it) you could even make it so that the girls can be sent for training to wear all sorts of outfits.

Putting the pony-girl reigns, spiked collars, possibly even gags in the unused headwear slot would simply make use of an otherwise unused feature and simply making everything available for all the girls would really give some true "epilogue" vibes rather than simply "free roaming" with all these unfinished bits and teasers staring me in the face.

I know you said this is the complete version, but please, even if you decide to take a break for a few months (ie. Put on hiatus for a refresher) since this really feels unfinished, and I'd love to see it pulled through to the end. Please come back to this later on and give a real finishing touch. You could probably bring this out to around ver.1.5 or so, with all the missing/unfinished content I saw in there... It would be a great leaning opportunity for you to figure out how to... "tie everything up" at the end of the game ;) so please consider it. For now I will simply watch your progress with the next game and what you're learning and doing from that.

PS. 7 months for a game this size is actually really impressive, despite the missing bits and bobs here and there, which I suppose might be due to you rushing the content instead of taking your time with it... really looking forward to future content from you dude! Great work!

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