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sorry but can we move away from the algorithms themselves. and yes i've separated the kick and tail(altho ill mention why I sometimes don't) 

Im simply trying to say that even tho i've split the kick and bass/tail at the correct place in the kick, it still loses all it's groove, rhythm and energy.

I've tried to screen record this for you with no luck, altho I really don't think you need it to understand what i'm saying. I had tried using the stretch feature within nimble kick and also the ones native to my daw, but neither do the job. 

i've only had one kick pitch fairly nicely using nimble kick but I did most of the job actually outside of nimble kick, I didn't separate the kick n tail n just decided to use nimble to pitch the whole sample and cut the kick and bass just in my daw and then glue them back together.

I'm afraid I don't really understand the problem, that's why I asked for a video. Were you having trouble doing a video recording?