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This is the best thing I have ever seen. Holy fuck. This is, like, 4 hours of pure AWESOME and WTF.

Spoilers ahead.

I never knew I needed cyberpunk Umineko.

This logo is so good. Conspiracy wall connections? Wires injected into a brain? Web of Red Truth? The extent of the Golden Witch's empire? How about all of the above.

I absolutely adore everything about this. Well, almost. Except for stiffness with query exact wordings (i.e. "ushiromiya gold" but not just "gold" or "marionette maker victims" but not "marionette maker killings", but that's okay, this kind of thing is a bitch to actually get working smoothly. Also, honestly, don't love the anti-progress vibe in the plot - but it's the Ushiromiya family who are doing this shit, so that's very understandable. Maybe a few more tidbits of information about how space colonization and androids and biotech etc actually improved life a lot would be appreciated. Okay, last nitpick - I would love there to be more than literally one music track. But the one included is very good and makes the game really tense, even if does totally wear off it's welcome and you just have to kill the sound sometimes.

The picture definitely starts to form...

Very hard to put concrete names behind specific things, but the overall picture is rather clear. A Beatrice - probably Beatrice II but could be I - is the core of CELESTE, and a Beatrice is leading the Purgatorio cult (probably III when they are not writing TV plays, but could theoretically be I, or maybe II is playing both sides - text messages, so who knows). The Marionette Maker is Ushiromiya family, looking for more valuable brains to cluster into CELESTE. Kinzo and Eva have been replaced with androids, their minds probably joining the cluster. The guy who shot Kinzo is probably Nanjo's son.

I have no idea what the fuck is up with Jessica, why did Asumu's disappearance leave behind a crazy-ass brain photo car, where the hell is Battler, how did Erika get her "gift" and from whom exactly, how does the database compiler know about the Rokkenjima Incident and George, and what the hell is with Rosa's paramilitary rationalist peacekeepers. And what about that Enemies of Reason photograph session? HMM. Maybe that photographer is a friend of Beatrice III.

korrie!4 days ago (1 edit)

i know this is old, but (spoilers ofc)

about the gift source, if Im reading this right typing "beatrice castiglioni" in the prompt says she gave it to her, and "I" is used in an entry about her grandchild telling her about something like battlers promise. given what happens with the rest of them, I wouldn't be too surprised if she was also digitized at some point and is butterflydb in some way.

so my personal read is "record" is her daughter, the equivalent of kuwadorian beatrice, who also had her own child, lion (in something analogous to canon? typing "ootsuki" mentions "the true face of the Ushiromiya family head and what he had done to her and her daughter") who becomes the text seen in "restore".

my guess was something messed up with beatrice II's digitization, given how the text in record goes, and it was tried for a second/third time with lion, which explains why their disappearance happens in 1985. as for why shannon's still writing until 1988--maybe she's serving as a hope spot, just like in canon? but one that's eventually failed, evidently...

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