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SPOILER WARNING and very long comment:

I'm enjoying the game a lot, the writing is very well done and the descriptions and attention to details is nice, i haven't tried every option but from the ones i did, i'm having problems wrapping my head around a few things.

Like how everyone reacts if you hurt R especially when they're aware of how they stalked you drugged you and basically took your organs and Left you for dead, expecting you to act like nothing happened and be all nice and friendly, especially with how R keeps provoking you and acting like you should be afraid of them, not the other way around like proven later. It'd be fine if you remaind an asshole and didn't tell them or promised to stay friendly.

Especially joia when R admits to hurting you first and doing a horrible thing to you. sure she's a kid, but seeing how they react towards you for just punchin, R knowing she did way worse things to you is weird. I appreciate that she is upset with both later, but still doesn't feel enough.

Oh and sure i get why L wants you to behave before doing anything, but i don't get how she expects you to not seek revenge. Also she should be aware that she's defending one psycho from the other right? And how'd she react if she'd been in your place huh? Not any better seeing she'd be dead from what R did regardless of revenge or not because of the company you work for.

Then there's R expecting you to be different from what they already made you up to be in their head (even if your first interaction with them was nice), knowing full well what they did to you, and how they still treat you, mock you and all that fun stuff.

Also what stops the mc from taking IVI back if you decide to visit R after choosing to keep punchin? especially with how scared they are, as well as expecting to die and what not?

Oki that's the end of my rambling just wanted to share a few thoughts that have been running in me head, if you read all of that.... sorry and thanks i guess! Didn't waste 20 minutes for nothing then.

Have a nice day.

sea1 year ago(+8)(-1)

This is exactly how I felt after meeting R again!! They ripped IVI out and almost caused MC's death, but every character gets upset with MC for trying to get back at them?!

It's so cool to see someone put what I was feeling into words haha!!

soul691 year ago(+1)

thanks for reading my long ass comment 👀

soul691 year ago (1 edit) (+2)(-1)

SPOILER WARNING:

Oki, i've thought some more and obviously if we're allowed to just take IVI back, it'd be problematic for the story or at the very least a pain in the pooper to continue from there.

Like R's definitely too weak to take her back, and if anyone else suggests giving IVI back to her knowing what happened.... deserves to be shot at that point.

But at least the other characters should react a bit differently than how they do now.

Thanks for reading this shorter ramble as well.

nyehilism1 year ago(+4)(-1)

hi! first of all, thanks for your comment - I'm glad you're enjoying the game, and I hope you continue to do so<3

To address your questions:

1) the civilians don't know you - they don't have any clue about the extent of Scytha's experimentation, and they don't know Rohan. particularly at first, they have no reason to believe either you or Rohan about what's going on, and when (if) the MC explains, they don't automatically start trusting you. Ki-Ha in particular distrusts you as Scytha staff, and Leanna, frankly, is more concerned with keeping her family safe than your feelings. she has no guarantee that any attempt at revenge on Rohan isn't going to have collateral damage, after all.

2) Joia also doesn't know you - she's a kid, and she's frightened and among strangers, and yeah she leans towards you as the person who saved her, but she leans towards Rohan as a person who is nice to her, and any show of violence from any of you is frightening to her. again, she has no reason to trust you except for your behaviour, which can be aggressive and erratic, and the reasons for that aren't clear to her.

3) Rohan is projecting a lot onto you - this is a deliberate character choice. Xe is a dick, I'm not denying that, but xe has reasons and xe's behaving that way deliberately. it's a defense mechanism, and it'll be explained in later chapters, but if you're not interested in that development, there is a very easy way to not have to deal with it beyond chapter 3 :)

4) if you're talking about on the station in chapter 3, xe doesn't bring IVI with xem then - she's left on the ship with Ki-Ha and Rhaxa. if you mean on Portia's ship, it's because the operative is very conscious that their rescue hinges on them behaving themself, and again, portia doesn't have the context to know if any sort of violence is 'justified'.

the operative isn't a person who inspires great trust in people - you show up on Leanna's ship, waving a weapon around and carrying a child who clearly isn't yours, you can potentially make threats against multiple other people in that first five minutes, and your behaviour going forwards doesn't exactly suggest //safety//. Nash also has their reasons for maybe not reacting as intensely as you might expect, which will come out in later chapters, but I have to say, I also think like... Leanna's reaction boils down to her asking you not to be violent around her family; Ki-Ha is pretty understanding, even if you did choose certain options in chapter 3, and Nash will offer to kill xem for you. I don't know what kind of a response you're hoping for, but they all have their reasons for not encouraging the operative to go on a violent rampage while they're trapped on a ship with you.

I hope this cleared some things up for you! thanks again for the comment<3

soul691 year ago (3 edits) (+1)(-1)

Thanks for taking the time to both read and reply, to my long ass comment and indulge in me rambling! And fair point about not wanting to be stuck on a ship with a raging bull i guess.

But it still feels like they're doing a poo poo job at making sure you don't go bananas on them, and considering some conversations they all know it'll end very poorly for them.

And I've noticed the hints about how R has past trauma from abuse and stuff, and does in fact have a death wish... but i'll wait and see what happens next, before deciding if their behavior is justified or not.

To be fair we didn't hurt R near L's family, on the station so to speak hehe.

And i admit joia has the most right to be confused about all this, and she does come to the decision that we're both fucked up. But at the end it still shows that she depends on us, from how she holds on to our hand at the end so that counts as somethin.

And Nash is either too jealous and happy that we lost IVI, or felt like she was replacing them as #1 friend...am i close?👀

Oh right about the being conscious about behaving on the smuggler's ship, we did nearly choke R to death soooo, and the part with Ki-Ha doesn't scream behaving, but i guess our stay was cut short anyways.

Also now that we ain't on L's ship or the smuggler's, no one better have a problem with me taking IVI back by force sure have a problem if i kill R otherwise shut up cause L has no authority now hehe.

The easy solution of shooting R, while very appealing...makes me feel like i'll miss on some interesting stuffs down the line, but hey it's the quickest way to get IVI back.

I might change a few points, or add some after i've woken up properly.

Again thanks for reading!

nyehilism1 year ago(+2)(-1)

I guess it's up to your interpretation, but I'd also say it's worth remembering that Leanna and Ki-Ha are civilians, and they're also undergoing a very traumatic experience; they're not dealing with things as well as they could, for sure, and no-one on this ship is equipped to deal with the operative's trauma in any real way (you'd need a whole fleet of therapists for that).

Nash has... a lot going on haha, again, you'll find out more in coming chapters🙊 and as for getting IVI back, that's definitely the fastest way but it's not the only way. I'm certainly not writing it such that not choosing that option leads you by default into forgiving Rohan, or letting it go; hopefully, all available routes will contain equally interesting content👀

thanks again for taking the time to comment!<3

soul691 year ago(+2)(-1)

No problem, and thanks for reading and replying to another one of my comments.

Keep up the good work 👍👀

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