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I understand that, but I wish you too would understand that there is so much patience people have, and if it took you whopping 3 — 4 years just for its main love interest to get its second day then maybe you shouldn’t make visual novels at all, because at this point its disrespectful towards both casual readers for tasting their patience and patreon supporters for wasting their money.  

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You sound bitter for whatever reason. I don't charge upfront for Patreon, and usually I withheld charging for the months that I don't update. And this isn't a business, Patreon is meant to be for those who wants to support. No one is obligated to. It is not compulsory. Stop treating it like one.

And disrespectful how? I'm not obligated to do literally anything/release content other than because of my want. You seem to be very entitled about it for whatever reason. I appreciate the support of my fans of course and it motivates me to keep making them.

 This VN is free. If you don't like it, move on. Go outside, touch grass. 

You DON'T have to read it. You CAN criticize it, but this isn't constructive at all. There's a lot of malice to it for it to even take seriously. 

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You do know they have a life right? They're not obligated to make updates frequently for anyone, it's just a hobby he likes making.

This is not some big project VN or something, this is just 1 person that likes making VN's and showed it to the world. 

Is his update schedule wack? Sure it is but that doesn't mean you can decide on which person can or cannot make a VN because of their time management, like who knows maybe he got some problems in life that he needs to sort out before having free time again to make an update.

Also VN's are just a game you pass time with, not your life centered around it. If you really want to and wait for 4 years just for a single update then you have to get a life or just read some other VN's.

Note this is a work of 1 person and they can do whatever they want with it and it is not our place to judge him or his time management

Also if your going to give constructive criticism, be nice 🙂👍

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> You do know they have a life right?

Okay? Then why even bother making anything? I mean as far as I am aware even doing this much work already have taken out from dev's life, so why even bother at this point?

> They're not obligated to make updates frequently for anyone, it's just a hobby he likes making.

The moment you entice your audience to spend their pretious time and emotional investment on your product you *do* become obligated to deliver on it, "it's just a hobby" isn't an excuse anymore. It would be one thing if it would be just a collection of short stories, but this is a somekind of slowburn mystery with multiple plotlines going on, an I can say with 90% that none of them are ever going to get resolved because both the audience and its creator will run out of patience before that. 

> Also if your going to give constructive criticism, be nice

Ok you are right on that one, but with death of freedom of expression when you always have to be nice to everyone it's becoming increasingly difficult to just not let it all out. I always tried to be nice to vn's I've criticised and it led it to me writing some absurd posts and previews with something like "right now this novel is kinda shit but I still have faith in it" because large portion of fvns are so bad I have feeling they were written by chatgpt (althought at least this vn isn't of those so I guess I can give it that as a compliment)

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You certainly don't need to be nice just because people ask you to, but I do believe it's a better strategy to convince the person you speak to.

I know it's hard for some people (that includes me), but the first impression is important, try not to fail it when your goal is to convince people.

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Your right on those points, the dev has a really whack update schedule and I'd be lying that I can wait for a Gran day 3.

But even so, isn't that all fvn's? I don't see a fvn that has a weekly update, either it takes 2-3 months to put out an update or an entire year so you really have to lower your expectations and just hopelessly wait (this is copium) even my favorite fvn can have delays and there's really nothing we can do.

We either bash the dev to make more consistent updates (will not work) or fossilize until a new update comes out 😭 we can't really do anything.

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Naho! I agree with you! really many or well almost all games here in the patreon which are short stories, have to wait many months up to a year because the "game maker" collapsed or other explanation.... why do they then make ten different games at the same time? I do not understand! homecoming morenatsu revisited is one example! the game has been made for years yet has not progressed anywhere because they are doing other games at the same time! really outrageous but money is good for them! Prehistoric Relations Crew is also one game that was updated 2 years ago and nothing has been reported or said what the reason is! alarming to my mind and outrageous that they do about!

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Dude, homecoming is a passion project, you can't expect them to update it often. Especially when they stick to schedule with Santa Lucia, their main project. And last PR update was just a year ago, not two. I can totally understand frustration, but it doesn't do any good to anybody.

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You paid zero dollars for a passion project man