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is the  ssao-1-5-1 addon the same as Mikal_SSAO_Color? some examples are telling me I need it. but I can't find it

Ah, they are different, if you have 3DObject, it is available there.

If you let me know which example(s) has it, I'll check and swap it out for the 1-5-1 version.

PhysicsAndRotate
spring and Raycast_Triggers can't open saying that it's not a valid c3c file

Added SSAO-1-6-0.c3addon, please try that (and latest physics addon and c3 beta) - for Raycast Triggers