hmm ramoray actually seems useful, she made the drug after all, fucking genius
she obviously would be under higher scrutiny when I am boss, but don and gary? yup very very dead, maybe have ramory turn them into fully functional trans woman sluts(in this world anything sexual is possible so even more fun to torture them like that) but yes old boss has to die, his main guard too
if you actually look at final scenes with gary he is not just an asshole, he was also abused, don is actually so terrible primarily due to his past promises, but boss? time to kill that MFer(actually he might really have MFed)
and ramoray is actually so "evil" because she simply wanted to understand why others felt love and lust but she couldn't, actually a nobel goal to "fix" sociopaths like herself
yeah though maybe don+gary can die but fixing ramoray feels like it is possible, and being so stupidly smart and kinda attractive(in terms of the other women called "hot") I would probably keep her around
Mayhaps a bit hasty concerning Ramorray, as it could be possible to treat her for her condition. I do think she should be given some "quality time" with a dose or three of RA-63.
Emma/Helen needs to be kept around. There was a bit of a teaser from her about her research that could help Tanya.
Oak has her potential uses. She also seems to have it on the ball with her mental and emotional states. She isn't starkers, she's just a self-centered, egotistical, selfish bitch.
And nah, Don and Gary aren't worth the effort or expense.
agreed, don and gary are too far gone, ramoray is actually immune to her own drug I think, she actually made it in order to help herself I think in lore
emma/Hellen is actually good, she was coerced into leaving her kids(god hard not to spoil who) and took a drug to forget the pain
oak is insane but in the good path you find she also was just like emma/Hellen and just went way darker and against rules with her experiments
ironically only boss, gary, and don(and boss's bodyguard) were actually evil, the rest of all characters were clearly simply living within a system that made them do evil, or were simply doing a job they knew included some tough acts
root out the bad types and the rest would become a true boon to society, RA-63 with the cure(good path) would be a great tool at saving people in deep issues, all you ask in return is to temporarily (contract term) help make the organization money like always
and yes what happened to your mom was evil(angelcest) but you were desperate and it wasn't supposed to be what oak did to her, just some drug stuff ramoray would have monitored more closely
GC555, I'm a bit fuzzy on what happened with Helen to begin with. Why did Zero drop her husband in the first place? Hopefully, there is an explanation in the offing (no pun intended) with the pending update.
Also, it may be that Ramorray already has the antidote that Emma reverse-engineered to duplicate it. That, and what the BLEEP happened to Angelica? Was it something in the water? Oh, right... Poor bunny girl, we hardly knew ye.
BTW, for future reference, Will Fukkdeep is the name of my character, and I will refer to him as Will from here on out. I hate third-person descriptions.
nice, the MC does "fukkdeep", and I think emma/Hellen agreed to something in the past, and the organization came to collect when she tried to run, and poor nani, she was so uptight you ended up breaking her and ruining her future for kids she wanted, maybe in the future good path you can use the unethical experiments knowledge to rebuild what she lost, and as for ramoray having the cure, if she did then overdoses would not be as much of a problem as they are and were for naniangelica was explained as a possible reaction to sexual repression and loosing her faith due to being forced to forfeit celibacy, just how Lilly was able to resist the drug because of strong worry
it is funny you didn't notice these tiny lore details in your playthroughs, they gave a basic explanation over every person who was dealing with shit if you read well
but whatever, still one of the greatest VN's I ever experienced and so I "paid" 10$ for it(I might be less stingy and "pay" again later for the "sequel" if they keep going long enough, money is complicated for me but I felt obligated to be anything but "free")
SPOILER ALERT: GC555, I don't know how your encounters with Nani went, but Gary's overdosing of her cost Will a son. Gary. Must. Die.
And The Boss has a vested interest in making sure that any antidote Ramorray might have never sees the light of day. As to other uses for RA-63, did you read Ramorray's email concerning it's creation? Actually, scratch that. I just reread them, and now I don't remember where I saw it.
My comment about the holy water was just me being facetious.
And I am in solid agreement with you here; JG, XM, you created a monster of a game. If you have another project in the works, may it live up to LTA's lofty aspirations. Bring on Chapter 4! :D
ok spoilers indeed, I did not realize in the non-incest path nani had another outcome, sad how you had to choose her life after the RA-63 OD
and yes the boss does have incentive to hide an RA-63 cure, sorta, as an OD is possible to ruin a "product" he may have ramoray keep it secret as a treatment not a cure for OD(though given your choices with nani I suspect it never existed before and ramoray never tried to make it)
truthfully a drug like that that does have a cure would be tricky, it would have to be relegated to OD's and otherwise kept silent
and funny enough some people are actually better off in the evil path and some worse off, I suspect that is intentional as we all know that life is more complicated than "100% good" and "100% evil"
and some people are the same in both paths, almost like what choices you make should always be a choice, not just a path
I find the lack of choice in how to deal with the forgotten chambers raid is a bit silly, the "FIB" having a clear rouge sect you can manipulate is just as valid as an evil choice, and the gary crash event is also a bit much, you see his mind is destroyed by his reckless choices, if you simply manipulated the raid to go off without a hitch(ie the boss raids the place himself to scrub anything related to the organization and leaves oak on her own) you could let the raid "rescue" the broken ones and your mom(not sure in the non-incest who the raid would be about or if it happens at all yet) and the FIB thinks they won, but either you did good or let them all think you did good
and as for the whole sarah story, I like that they actually allowed path switching, I wish they did that a tad more, evil or good are arbitrary when dealing with a fictional global "escort" company that uses inhibition drugs and surgical alterations, what is evil is what is unnecessary for the takedown/reform what is good is the choice to avoid that unnecessary evil act
GC555, I'm on the Angel/Incest path.
It was a lot to take in regarding the "don't do its" involved in Nani's future recovery and life, as related to Will. There did seem to be the possiblity of a counter-agent to treat her OD. They had to have given her something to stabilize her before they were able to work on her. Given how much RA-63 Nani had in her system, she might have siezed under anesthesia, and then no more Nani. :(
As to the raid, I'm puzzled as to how no-one in the mansion noticed anything. The amount of explosives needed to force the doors pictured would have caused enough of a tremor to set off the mansion's security alarms. Not to mention the blast and overpressure escaping back down the tunnel to the outside. It would have been audible to anyone on the property, and in the surrounding area. (Sorry, one of My best friends is a retired US Army 12-Bravo. ;) I've read the TM's) Not to mention that anyone stupid enough to be in there when it went off would have been wallpaper. Just saying. :D
As for Sarah and the lot, It could well be a no-win scenario for all involved. Twists and turns are common in fiction, if nothing else to keep the reader/viewer guessing and involved. Just as you pointed out, JG.
BTW, if anyone out there reading these cares to jump in, the pool is open. Don't worry, I had the water checked. No RA-63 present. ;)
well yeah, IF there were not MULTIPLE blast doors between the active portions of the mansion and teh "forgotten caverns"
but as the name implies, it is highly likely they sealed off those zones long ago, and "forgot" about them being behind blast doors for "security"
can a blast door mixed with the sheer amount of noise some of the shit ramoray and company would be doing actually not drown out a far-away blast behind multiple blast doors?
I suspect that the map is inaccurate in terms of relative distances, I mean your house is compared to other blocks and you were told you have "several hundred acres" and would the mayor live on less than 100 acres? and what about hiding elsa's house? I suspect the map is basically a zone of several dozen miles in each direction, not just a few city blocks
this fixes the "nearby" flaw and the "shockwave" flaw and even the "noise" flaw of the raid, if you hear a boom muffled by several dozen blast doors, several miles distance, and covered up by local noise, you are unlikely to know what happened, especially if clacks and bangs are part of the local noise floor(very likely in the lab and assuming the vast underground transit system for such a town-wide tunnel system)
but yes, the rest of it is very normal for even a real-world version of the organization(discounting the medical bullshittery) such a story could legitimately happen, and if we did have an "RA-63" they would have a type of "narcan" for it and maybe not a full cure(likely designed by the boss to be ONLY a lifesaving measure and forbidden to make it better), such a treatment may save some women but others may be brain-damaged from the events(they do reference the pituitary gland as part of the cure path, making it likely it is just something akin to anti-depressants and depressant drugs that just target the rational brain's ability to have self-control)
but all in all I want this VN to reach at least 20 chapters of similar length, the idea of maybe even seeing your kids take over and possibly ruin what you did would be just as interesting
I can't imagine what Oak could possibly have been doing down there that would have lulled security into just letting an unknown seismic even slip by. Truth be told, they could just have easily caused the cavern system to collapse. It would be kinda hard to miss if the mansion ended up in it's own sub-basement... Multiple doors or no, that shockwave would spread outwards into the adjoining areas through the bedrock. But, it is a game afer all.
As to scale, The map isn't gridded out, so there's really nothing to go by.
Stopped by the Library and actually read some of the things available. Interesting. As to Will's progeny taking over, why not a prequel taking things back to the flood and it's aftermath, letting a player "get in on the ground floor", when it all starts?