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far-lands281 days ago (3 edits) (+14)(-2)

1:Lemme show you how ur whole point is unvalid

2:the 1 is just like,"yes we knew it was bad and we still did it"

3:U blame limits, while the only thing he did was to wanr others. PLUS 2S is banned because it include the 2S account, used by basically almost every member

4:ur point 2,3 and the final is just saying the others problems and not actually defending ur cause

5:it IS unfair since it give advantage with other member that were not in 2S

6:You may have got the aproval from the devs to use the mod in its intended form. I do respect it, but using it to basically farm coins is unaceptable, no matter how many coins or gears you have. You basically betrayed the devs.

7:saying that it isnt that big of a deal cause its digital is just dumb, cause a lot is actually digital (bitcoins, digital yet more worth that ur whole message here)

8:Your point 4 also act only in the direct way of unfair, while the real problem stay for players that actually farmed in the rigth way.

9:Its more like an exploit that a glitch, expet ur using , and im forced to repeat again and again since u dont want to hear it, A EXTERNAL SOFTWARE. SO that mean that ony the ppl who had the mods could do it, as such, it IS a hack.

So basically, ur trying to say that because you were hacking by using a glitch on an exteranl software from N1 isnt that big of a deal, because its only digital, that other did a bug(actually from the game, not a mod), and that its not important because other hackers are here.
I Really dont see how you think that this whole thing is valid, it's just dumb, and when you dont have anything to say you just either go back to your 2S server to prob talk shit, either trow random insults

far-lands281 days ago (1 edit) (+9)(-1)

PLUS u were the first person to want omni poosting down cause it was quote:"too easy to do and is overpowered"

PLUS given the nature of all of this, I rly dont know why the devs didnt chosed a permanent ban

SNADOW (BLACKMILL)280 days ago(+1)(-10)

what external software did we use?

far-lands280 days ago(+2)(-2)

the mod dummy

SNADOW (BLACKMILL)280 days ago(+1)(-10)

I already replied to all these points on discord, go read that

far-lands280 days ago(+5)(-1)

otherwise what would the devs have approved 💀

slipperking280 days ago(+5)(-7)

Shut the fuck up limits was going to be banned before anyways.

If you dont know the full details or even just the main points, please stop talking because it only contributes to further controversy and imbues others with the controversy that you falsely believe yourself of being right of.

2. We did it because the devs failed to give us the impression of their decision before by remaining inactive (ofc I know you didn't bother reading any of the conversation of the post except for the first post so please shut the fuck up before you talk).

3. You don't even know the facts. Only 4 members out of 37 ever grinded using the mod in question.

4. The fuck? were you even listening? We were referring to how (because of the alt shield) we EFFECTIVELY DID NOT affect others' gameplay because no one else joined. Unlike other glitches in the past (skin stacking etc) which affected others' gameplay and did not result in any other punishment. This was the point we were trying to argue.

5. What advantage? We already had three bows of identical stats, and as for fairness being determined whether or not you're in a clan or not, what's the difference with joining another clan and getting all the items? Isn't that an unfair advantage? No. Otherwise there would be no point of having clans, and to me, being in a decent clan does tend to give you an advantage, which I think does not put this out of the norm with or without the exploit.

6. This point, sure it's true. However our intention with the mod was NOT to farm coins, but rather we found it while testing out a point 1v1 where we grabbed the flag, reloaded to drop, and earned coins from that. (In simplified terms.)

7. I don't even understand what you're saying. We're trying to say how since no actual form of currency or money is exchanged, why you're so mad. You can't compare it to other digital means because those relate to the exchange of money.

8. So? It doesn't affect them. Why should they care if we can get coins? It's not like it subtracts the coins. The two can't be compared, because they don't relate to each other in any way and are independent.

9. External software? The exact same exploit could have been replicated WITHOUT any mod. It's not a hack because as you said before, but conveniently avoided, that we have received permission. And since it's not detrimental to others, no, it's not classified in the same way. When the word "hack" is referred to, it provides a direct detriment to others. For example, AGM, Bape, Admin Panel.

" its not important because other hackers are here": When was this implied? We're saying is that we had the necessary steps taken and necessary precaution to validate everything we did. What you call external software means it's separate, but it wasn't because all it was JS. Consequently as such, then autoclickers, and custom crosshairs would fall similarly, and that games played with custom crosshairs would become deemed as unfair.

About omnipoosting, etc. It's not the same because that stuff affects others' gameplay, this exploit didn't affect others' gameplay.

Please understand the situation before you make your shitposts.

far-lands280 days ago(+9)(-3)

2:If it break the game, why did u used the afact that the devs were not here as an excuse to use it that way. Snadow CLEARLY said it was an advantage by refering it as a chance. "...most people wouldn't even leak it to the devs if you were in our position and had the same chance as us."

3:No matter how many players used this technique, it is STILL not ok, no matter the context. U didnt had aproval, and saying this feels like u ust tried to fill a blank spot.

4:UR the one not reading since I clearly said that it was unfair with the RESULTS of this. Learn how to read before calling out ppl for that.

5:No matter WHAT you have, or how many u have, cheating by hacking( because YES it IS hacking) to get more gears, it will NEVER be smt normal. And if the devs judged you would be rigth, why a ban had to happen?

6:The mod may be very usefull for making video(prob the reason it was proved), you should have reported it to the devs, or just not do it.

7 AND 8:Listen, these coins have to be EARNED. So if you want them, you have to take time and put skills into it, you know the drill. So then saying that basically farming it by just flying aroud a map isnt a problem, ur prob either delusional, either RLY big fan or 2S(or a key member of it *cough*)

9:Yet you did it WITH the software, implying that it had a difference, since you said it COULD be possible. And since it wasnt used in the way it was aproved, it IS at least worth considered a hack.
A device like custom crosshairs has been aproved, showing that it put no harm to the game from the perspective of the developers.

And last point:If you cant understrand it, it is used as irony since he (and prob you) was one of the firt to want it removed, cause it ruined the game. Yet in his situation," it isnt that big of a deal". Is pretty fucked up.

far-lands280 days ago(+2)(-1)

and I dont see the point of saying he would have been banned anyway like why u say that idc

slipperking280 days ago(+4)(-5)

why the fuck do you care about the coins we fucking earned?

Why do you care about what we do you’re clearly irrelevant. For all I know no one asked or needed your opinions.

It’s not cheating. Cheating is gaining an unfair advantage. In this case, none of it was advantageous, we didn’t get any advantage or anything. For the purpose of consistency through definition, it was not cheating.

The point is you clearly don’t have a satisfactory grasp of the situation. Maybe read the history of what happened before posting. I’m sure every point you’ve brought up was brought up elsewhere, by limits or by one of his sycophants, so for the purpose of keeping points germane, I don’t see why you needed to post this.

That is, what was your intention for posting about this topic? Has it not already been discussed?

far-lands280 days ago(+3)(-1)

it DOES give an advantage, an ive said COUNTLESS TIMES why, yet u cant read it.
Plus I do care because I want this game to be fair, not filled with ppl like u who get mad whenever smt doesnt agree wit him

slipperking280 days ago(+2)(-3)

Omfl

The fairness as described was when compared to other players. Just because something is unequal does not mean it’s unfair. It’s the same for many other perks of being a clan. If I joined 2S and had an account of full fearless does that make it unfair for those who were grinding it? No. And this was the same manner of which you compared the fairness of situations. Even when we achieved the goal, It does not matter since it does not affect gameplay. It’s fair because we have more players on an account and can grind together to achieve greater efficiency.

Due to the generalization you assume, I could generalize it the same way. Anyone could learn to code and do the same. Advantages from numbers is not the as unfairness, because what you could do is dependent on the quality or efficiency of the person(s). That’s what I was trying to explain previously (which you might have missed or misunderstood) in my previous messages when I mentioned how the advantages came from numbers.

far-lands280 days ago(+4)(-2)

Listen up

1:Yall used a mod to do it

2:The game doesnt include any clan system, nor whatever ur doing.

3: AGAIN, if it is THAT harmless, why was there a BAN?!

slipperking280 days ago(+1)(-3)

The mod had gain approval and could be done without the mod (and as I said before did not impact gameplay of others)

I never mentioned a clan system. It was an example of how inequality is not always unfairness. Like you could use a shared account for an example.

That was what we asked the devs, but the point was the unequal treatment when compared to what W got

far-lands280 days ago(+3)(-1)

The mod MAY have been approved to help to record videos, using it(cause by the way ur talking clearly show u were indeed using it) as a way to farm is not acceptable. And for whatever W did, yes they should, but don’t use it as a way to change subject

slipperking280 days ago(+1)(-2)

As for W, it wasn't to change the subject, but to justify not to be banned.

The mod has been approved for "2S events," so we classified it as a "2S event" as well.

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limitsdragon279 days ago(+1)(-2)

who the fuck are you even?

far-lands279 days ago(+2)(-1)

prob kuro who got offended

slipperking278 days ago (1 edit) (+1)(-1)

I'm not kuro.

It's stupid how you try to make matters totally irrelevant relavant.

far-lands277 days ago(+1)(-1)

I said « probably » since ur the only person I think u r+ u act like him

slipperking278 days ago(+1)(-1)

I'm sorry but I wanted to sub to you but for some reason it's not working.

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